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What makes you conservative ? why are you not a fundamentalist ?

Discussion in 'Conservative Christianity' started by gracethroughfaith, Sep 16, 2016.

  1. gracethroughfaith

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    What do you do, think, believe that makes you conservative ? why are you not a fundamentalist ?
     
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  2. Inkfingers

    Inkfingers Somebody's heretic Supporter

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    Fundamentalism requires literalism towards Genesis, whilst Conservatism does not.
     
  3. Hieronymus

    Hieronymus Well-Known Member

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    I think conservatism actually means conformism..
     
  4. Tull

    Tull Well-Known Member

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    Here we go,not three post in and the insults begin
     
  5. JM

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    Fundamentalism morphed into a worldview that includes a false literalism or a literalism that avoids literary genres. Modern Fundamentalism is semi-gnostic in the way it disdains alcohol, drinking, the physical body, etc. and should be rejected.

    Yours in the Lord,

    jm
     
  6. Job8

    Job8 Senior Member

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    This is similar to Hillary's "deplorables" insults. *Semi-Gnostics* is about as ridiculous as you can get.
     
  7. Sketcher

    Sketcher Born Imperishable

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    I'm from more of an evangelical tradition. Seems that fundamentalists don't like that.
     
  8. JM

    JM Particular Baptist Supporter

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    Fundie's tend to dislike everything.
     
  9. Albion

    Albion Factchecker

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    The two simply are different concepts. A conservative values that which has proven itself. A conservative is a traditionalist while not closing off the possibility of change; but he doesn't favor rash change that's based upon a theory without regard for past experience. There are conservatives in just about every denomination.

    A fundamentalist is part of an interchurch movement that believes in Christians working together to uphold the basic doctrines of the Christian religion against liberal theology, while not demanding that everyone agree on the NON-essential doctrines that divide the different Christian churches.

    They're similar in some ways, but these are not interchangeable terms.
     
  10. 1watchman

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    Here is another view: Conservative actually speaks of being less ceremonial, ritualistic, etc. (somewhere between the High Church sects and "fundamentalism"; and I see fundamentalism as very independent and seeking to each have their own private interpretations. I believe God would be pleased to have us all be "scriptural", as "one body in Christ", which is a rarity in christendom today. I think the site at biblecounsel.net has got it about right! Look up always, for God cares always!
     
  11. Shodan

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    I am an American conservative, which for me is a political position including
    • Individual rights
    • Personal responsibility
    • Limited government
    • Free markets
    It has almost nothing to do with fundamentalism. I am not a fundamentalist because I have been persuaded by the evidence that Genesis and some of the other parts of the Bible are not to be interpreted literally.

    Regards,
    Shodan
     
  12. Albion

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    I don't see any reason for coming to that conclusion. It's not as though ritual is some kind of innovation; it is very historic, like it or not, so to favor it because you feel that it is worth retaining IS to be conservative.

    The word has come to mean dozens of different things, depending upon who's speaking. However, the word originally meant (and still does, if you check the Statement of Belief here on CF) an uncompromising defense of Christian basics that just about all denominations, whether Catholic or Protestant, would hold as essential in the face of religious liberalism.
     
  13. 1watchman

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  14. Albion

    Albion Factchecker

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    Ritual has always been a part of worship in both the Hebrew and Christian religions, so any suggestion that ritual itself is an "innovation" is a non-starter as an argument. And the idea that the Roman Catholic Church invented ritual is even worse!

    If that's the basis of your argument about what's conservative in religion, I rather suspect that you are thinking of something other than "ritual." As a matter of fact, there are relatively few Protestant worship services that could be said to be without their respective rituals.

    Of course there are a number of other factors that should go into any defintion of both "conservative" and "fundamentalistic."
     
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  15. joseph_

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    I think of conservatism as being an attitude and response to tradition whereas fundamentalism is an effort to replace theological studies with Biblical literalism, typically in small independent baptist churches that disdain theological studies.
     
  16. Albion

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    Not to disagree with you, but the two words really define themselves.

    A "CONSERVative" in either religion or politics wants to conserve or perpetuate what is the best of the past, that which has proven itself, while not going in for any untested innovations. A "FUNDAMENTAList" in religion wants to make common cause with every other Christian who agrees on the essentials/basics/fundamentals of the faith that have been under attack from theological liberals over the past century or so, foregoing fights over the non-essentials that divide us into different denominations.

    :)
     
  17. classicalhero

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    Apart from Albion, most don't even understand the terms they are trying to use.
     
  18. Knee V

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    The statements of purpose of the two groups make it clear what each one (at least here at CF) stands for. The statement of purpose of the fundamentalist group excludes me, primarily since I do not share their stated view of what Scripture fundamentally is and why we have it.

    The statement of purpose for the conservative group is worded such that I largely agree with it and nothing excludes me (although I'very been largely absent from CF for some time and haven't posted here quite a while).
     
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