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Doesn't ring a bell by the name, so probably not. I must have missed it, unless it was very long, and I decided not to spend my limited data. Can you link it again?
I have seen people who are right, come across as irritatingly proud or condescending, when all they think they are is right. They don't think they are perfect, and being human they react to people who become antagonistic toward them. Some of them have gotten in the habit of being pre-emptively antagonistic. But I think you would agree, when you know something for sure, it gives a certain air of confidence. It can be taken as pride or arrogance. True faith in God doesn't have to be understood to give one confidence, but when what one believes seems to them to be backed up by scripture, and by reason, and experience, in many different ways/ references/ logical sequences/ events and assessments, yeah, it can make them very confident.
But I guess I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
True faith in God doesn't have to be understood to give one confidence, but when what one believes seems to them to be backed up by scripture, and by reason, and experience, in many different ways/ references/ logical sequences/ events and assessments, yeah, it can make them very confident.
And the distinction between "Calvin" and "Calvinism" is a new one to me.
I know some Calvin, which evidently is not "Calvinism."
Nor do I do "ism's", I do Scripture.
Your summary of accusation seems to lack a body of evidence.But deadly accurate.
I see your unable to defend him.
He did a lot of writing. Seems he misplaced God altogether.
no one becomes a calvinist without reading their dogma.Did you learn your theology from reading the Bible alone or did you pick up your theology from different Biblical scholars?
no one becomes a calvinist without reading their dogma.
you believed God created most of mankind with no chance or opportunity to be saved( created them for hell) and that you had no choice/decision in your salvation ?I did. I didn't know what Calvinism as a term means until 2002. I began believing in a Calvinist-like theology in the late 80s.
Yes. . .one more time:
John 6:65 - "No one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."
you believed God created most of mankind with no chance or opportunity to be saved( created them for hell) and that you had no choice/decision in your salvation ?
Thanks, but no, thanks.In the first eight chapters or Romans, the apostle Paul makes man’s need and God’s gracious provision through Christ abundantly clear. Paul ends chapter 8 on a high note in reflection of the endless, inseparable love God has for those who are in an abiding, relationship with Him (Romans 8:9-28). In chapters 9-11 of Romans, Paul shifts focus to his anguish over Israel.
I invite you now to the summary commentary of Romans 9 by Leighton Flowers - drum roll please
Line by Line through Romans 9
I provided his writings.
Previously addressed. . .see post #3215.I linked to Calvins writings on Love specifically. I demonstrated that
Calvin did not know God. Then I provide 700 pages text for demonstration.
How about Biblical demonstration of your assertion, without which it has no Biblical merit?
Feel free to exegete:
Romans 9:18-19,
Romans 9:20-21,
Romans 9:22-23,
being true to their words, their context and the whole counsel of God.
Found in Romans 9:22-23.
Are you saying his statement above is contrary to Romans 9:23?
Please exegete Romans 9:22-23, being true to its words and context.
How about stop wasting my time with questions you are not seeking an answer to.Thanks, but no, thanks.
I am corresponding with you, not with Leighton Flowers, who cannot address my responses.
Feel free to present your understanding of it, to which I will respond.
Wrong. . .one understands the plain word of God, only to discover they are not the only one who understands it that way. . .Calvin, et al, also do.no one becomes a calvinist without reading their dogma.
I'm not seeking answers. . .How about stop wasting people's time with questions you are not seeking an answer to.
I've read other material. . .the best book written outside the Bible being, Knowing God by J. I. Packer.Did you learn your theology from reading the Bible alone or
did you pick up your theology from different Biblical scholars?
Yes. . .I can demonstrate that John 3:17 means "all without distinction."
John 6:65 - "No one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."
John 6:37 - "All that the Father gives me will come to me."
John 6:39 - "I shall lose none of all that he has given me."
Do "all without exception" come?. . .you do the math.
Strawman. . .which alters nothing regarding the spiritual impotence of unregenerate man.John 6:65 - "No one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."
Why was Jesus saying that at that time?
Because many Jews were following him to learn the latest "work" one must do to inherit eternal life. The pharisees had the entire nation brainwashed into salvation by works.
I never believed in irresistible grace. I would say I had a semi-irristable grace view. I believed the elect will always choose Christ and I had concluded limited atonement based on what the bible says about the elect. I also was uncomfortably aware that the scripture appeared to teach OSAS if you were of the elect which raises issues about sinning.
At the time I was coming out of a works for salvation Pentecostal mindset that I had failed at. I became a confused combination of several different denominational theologies. I even have Catholocism in my background.
And reading books differs from reading pamphlets, talking to preachers and believers, how? . . .except that preachers and believers are not a printed page?I didn't learn theology by going to school and reading books. I learned it by visiting churches, reading pamphlets, talking to preachers, talking to believers, and worshipping God with them.
How about stop wasting my time with questions you are not seeking an answer to.
Yes, that’s what I said.I'm not seeking answers. . .
Good to know you agree. . .Yes, that’s what I said.
You have not presented a demonstration of your assertion in light of the above Scriptures.How about Biblical demonstration of your assertion that God is being misrepresented, without which demonstration your assertion has no Biblical merit?
So feel free to exegete:
Romans 9:18-19,
Romans 9:20-21,
Romans 9:22-23,
being true to their words, their context and the whole counsel of God.
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