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Featured What is the most important spiritual discipline?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Tree of Life, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Hide The Pain

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    This may sound like I'm asking "which is the most important leg on a stool?" or "which is the most important wheel on a car?" And this may be the case.

    But I actually do think that there is one discipline that takes primacy over all the rest. There is one discipline that if it's missing from your life will negatively affect all the other disciplines and negatively affect your growth in Christ. I'll name it in the spoiler below, but before you look at my answer I'd like to hear your answer and your rationale.

    Weekly Church attendance.
     
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  2. HereIStand

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    Obedience. If we love Christ, we keep His commandments. Our spiritual growth is conditioned on it. Knowledge and sharing the faith with others follows from commitment.
     
  3. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Hide The Pain

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    I've never understood obedience to be a spiritual discipline.
     
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  4. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    Coming to HIM in prayer acknowledging and asking for HIS "DAILY BREAD" daily to begin another day..


    Lamentations 3
     
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    A strange phenomena is occurring nowadays.

    Patients read the internet and are sometimes more conversant about their illness than their doctor.

    That's because the doctor knows about all illnesses generally, but the patient, because of his deep focus on his own one illness, can become more knowledgeable.

    True report
    Doctors who have not kept up to date with findings have cause blindness by not completely removing the nucleus material when performing catart surgery, a simple procedure. Previously it was not known why some surgeries ended up in blindness.


    A similar scenario is being repeated in churches.

    A friend told me that the main reason people attend churches nowadays is to spot the mistakes being taught.
     
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  6. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    English American Standard version is NOT my choice and I do not know how to change it to JPS.

    Lamentations 3:23-25 to be precise
     
  7. brinny

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    As i mull over what you mean by "discipline", i will just respond with my first thoughts on the matter.

    What came to mind for me is this:

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Proverbs 9:10

    The "fear of the Lord" is spoken of throughout God's entire Word as being of utmost importance to God. It is impossible to be "wise" without it". And it is of the utmost importance to be "wise" in order to embrace WHO God is AND His "holy-ness".

    It's a "heart" thing. And that is what God looks upon. A "wise" heart. In the very beginning of the book of Job, God clearly stated why He called Job "perfect and upright" (righteous). And it was because of this:

    "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil." ~Job 1:1

    This also indicates "wisdom":

    "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" ~Micah 6:8

    Enoch must have been a very wise man. He walked with God, so very closely, that God "took" him.

    Very wise indeed.
     
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  8. Tree of Life

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    I'm not sure what the relevance of this post is here. Could you connect this back to the issue of spiritual disciplines?
     
  9. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Can weekly attendance in anything increase life, righteousness, healing, raising the dead, casting out demons, health, edifying others, encouraging others, growing in the body of Christ ?

    Often weekly attendance forbids these Scripturally Described Life Promoting Activities in Christ Jesus...
    so
    ... ... ... what then ?
     
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  10. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    Are you saying then that each is responsible to know THE LORD individually and personally first and foremost?

    If so, then this I agree with completely.
     
  11. Wordkeeper

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    This.

    Its why Jesus baptised with the Holy Spirit and with FIRE.

    Jeremiah 23:29
     
  12. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Many people never understood that or any other spiritual discipline. This is a shared commonality in the world.

    Obedience is required. Whether it is a spiritual discipline or not depends on your definition I guess.
     
  13. Tree of Life

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    Yes. Weekly attendance at a local church of genuine believers where the gospel is being proclaimed and the sacraments administered is able to do all these things and more!

    I'm not sure what you mean here. Could you elaborate?
     
  14. Tree of Life

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    I agree that obedience is required but I understand it as a much broader category. Practicing spiritual disciplines falls under the heading of obedience for me - not the other way around.
     
  15. Tree of Life

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    Thanks brinny. I understand spiritual disciplines to be the things that we do in order to receive wisdom from the Lord - or perhaps the things that we do in order to grow in the fear of the Lord. Of course this must be nuanced with the understanding that it is the Lord who develops these things in us. But this does not mean that we are entirely passive.

    So what's the most important thing that we can do in order to grow in the fear of the Lord and in wisdom?
     
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    Humbleness towards God.. The ability to allow God to lead..
     
  17. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    Didn't God specify in His Word that "obedience" is better than "sacrifice"?
     
  18. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Hide The Pain

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    Thanks for the reply. Humility sounds like a virtue or a fruit of the Spirit to me - not a spiritual discipline. Isn't humility the thing that develops because we practice spiritual disciplines?
     
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    He certainly did. On multiple occasions. What light do you think that this sheds on the issue?
     
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  20. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    Doesn't God Himself grant us wisdom?

    And it begins with the "fear" of the Lord, does it not?
     
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