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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by ChristianCorner777, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. ChristianCorner777

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  2. Left

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    The Amazing Facts website is an interesting one. Just keep in mind that, respectfully, their articles aren't always correct.
     
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    To clarify, I have come across some of the articles before, and asked a extremely well-skilled theologian of the orthodox faith who understood logic and history if those articles were correct. He said they contained so many errors, that he couldn't even begin to describe them.
     
  4. Soyeong

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    Messiah set a perfect example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law, so he could be described as the man of Lawfulness, whereas the anti-Christ is described as the man of Lawlessness, so the power of the anti-Christ is to deceive the followers of God into thinking that they should not follow His Law or Messiah's example of following his Law and that his Law has been done away with.
     
  5. ChristianCorner777

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    Exactly and the Bible says that this beast power would think to change "times and laws".
     
  6. Another Lazarus

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    Gabriel has actually revealed where the antichrist will come from.

    Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary........
    27"And HE will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction...

    The people of the prince = the Roman, so the Prince to come (in the end times) shall be of the Roman origin.

    and HE = the prince (antichrist) will make a 7 year peace deal between Israel-Arab, which is actually to split the nation as two state "solution".

    This 7 year peace deal is the FINAL WEEK of Daniel.

    May jesus bless you all HalleluYAH
     
  7. Douggg

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    "The angel assured Daniel that the section of the book dealing with end-time prophecies would be opened after the end of the 1260-year period of papal control which was, as we learned earlier in this Study Guide, 1798. So the time of the end began in the year 1798."

    Hi ChristianCorner777, from that site, the time of the end began in the year 1798?

    Well, let's look at the criteria of what it says about the time of the end in Daniel 12...

    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

    In 1798, did they have computers, internet? Did they have TV, radio? Did they have cars, jets? No, the transportation was the same as it had been for all the times before it.

    Does the RCC deny the trinity? Referring to 1John2:22. No it does not. So it passes not being the Antichrist criteria with flying colors on that indicator.

    1John2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

    Are the two witnesses to lay dead in the streets of Jerusalem 3 1/2 days or 3 1/2 years? No, not 3 1/2 years. Changing days into years - to fit the Pope/RCC into being the Antichrist - is flawed thinking.
     
  8. jgr

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    Peter’s and Paul’s descriptions of purveyors of false teaching and conduct within the church:

    2 Peter 2:1 NASB

    But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

    Titus 1:10-11,16 NASB

    10 For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teachfor the sake of sordid gain.
    16 They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.


    Those described above did not deny God’s existence. Similarly, the papacy did not deny God’s existence. But its teachings and actions constituted an apostate departure from the true faith, and a denial of that faith in the manner Peter and Paul describe above.
     
  9. Douggg

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    Yes, I had written another thread, while not the Antichrist, the Pope's could be considered false prophets because some of the doctrines they teach they do on the basis of "thus saith the Lord".
     
  10. Another Lazarus

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    Better learn history instead, the INQUISITION by the RCC has killed millions of Jews and Christians, the Jews of Judaism who refused to convert have been deprived of their land and properties This dark story of RCC has been admitted by Pope John Paul II and remember that history may repeat itself.
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  11. Marilyn C

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    Hi ChristianCorner777,

    I think God is quite clear as to the Nationality, & Region the anti-Christ comes from.


    His nationality – Assyrian. (Isa. 31: 8 Micah 5: 5)

    The region he comes from – the Ancient Assyrian Empire. (Dan. 11: 35 – 43)

    Leader of Ancient Assyrian region - Iraq, Syria & Jordan. (Dan. 7: 8)

    Leader of Islamic Federation – 10 kings of Islam. (Dan. 7: 8, Rev. 17: 12)

    He rules the world – (Rev. 16: 13 & 14, 19: 19)


    Marilyn.
     
  12. jgr

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    The uses and meanings of “deny” in 2 Peter 2:1 and Titus 1:16 give insight into its use and meaning in 1 John 2:22, i.e. not a denial of the existence of the Father and the Son, but rather of the truths about Them. Recognizing this led the Reformers to conclude that the pope and papacy were indeed antichrist.
     
  13. jgr

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    Reprinted from the Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin/Little Horn Separate and distinct or the Same?
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    Antichrist in History

    Fundamental to dispensational eschatology is belief in a future Antichrist who will appear close to the end of time, unleashing heinous deceptions and depredations on his victims. He will ultimately be destroyed, but not before himself destroying countless individuals both spiritually and physically during his reign of error and terror.

    The vast majority of professing dispensationalists are familiar with and subscribe to this doctrine. What is overwhelmingly less recognized, however, is the history of its origin and proliferation.

    By the early 16th century, the Protestant Reformation was experiencing notable success in casting off the spiritual chains characterizing the papal Roman, i.e Roman Catholic (RC), empire’s dark ages. Two of the foundational proclamations upon which said success rested were: (1) The just shall live by faith; and (2) The papacy is antichrist. For these, particularly the latter, various of the Reformers consequently paid with their lives. Evidence for the latter was recognized from prophecies in Daniel and Revelation; from the RC church’s own arrogated title for the pope, Vicarius Filii Dei (Latin for Vicar of the Son of God); and for the pope’s own direct claims (Pope Pius XI, “I am God on the earth.”).

    The RC church’s own foundations were crumbling under the Reformation attack, and the necessity for a counter strategy was being exigently recognized. Francisco Ribera (1537-1591), a priest within the RC order of the Jesuits, was commissioned with the task. His response was to produce a 500 page commentary which speculated upon a future antichrist who would abolish Christianity, claim to be God, and conquer the world. This was the beginning of the doctrines of futurism which are intrinsic to contemporary dispensationalism.

    Ribera’s futurism was further disseminated within RC ranks by Italian cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621), and became official RC dogma.

    For a further two centuries, however, only the RC church subscribed to the futurist position. Then in 1826-1830, Samuel Maitland (1792-1866), librarian to the Archbishop of Canterbury, became the first Protestant to adopt it. Disbelieving that the papacy was in the prophecies, he was contemptuous of much of the Reformation.

    James Todd (1805-1869), professor of Hebrew at Trinity College in Dublin, was a subsequent adherent.

    Concurrent with these developments were the appearance and rise of Darbyism and the doctrines of modern dispensationalism. Futurism was recognized as being fully compatible, and was soon integrated. The result was an interpretive system overwhelmingly oriented to speculation and conjecture, with minimal regard for the historic prophetic wisdom and sacrifices of the saints of old.

    Thus has been briefly described, the origin and proliferation of the doctrine of a futurized antichrist. For those committed to objectivity and the historicity of scripture, I trust it has been of some value.
     
  14. Another Lazarus

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    Antichrist will emerge from the church itself.

    Like Judas Iskariot who was an apostle of Jesus.

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    It's easier for a camel to squeeze through the eye of a needle than for the Richs to enter the kingdom of Heaven, so ......
    why do they keep millions dollars instead of giving it to the poors.


    May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH
     
  15. Revealing Times

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    He will change TIMES and LAWS and since he is an End Time figure/man, he will seek to do what when he demands to be worshiped as GOD? Think about the first thing the he will need to do. IMHO, this is logical thinking not revelation of the Holy Spirit, he will seek to do away with the Calendar as we know it !! The A.D. (In the year of our Lord) will have to go. As per LAWS all tyrants seek to change Laws when they come to power. Hitler seized all the guns etc. etc.
     
  16. Revealing Times

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    The Anti-Christ is an Assyrian (Turk) who is born in Greece (Daniel 8) and comes to power in the E.U. (Daniel 7). He is a European Leader and will force Israel and Arabs into a Peace/Security deal. He will then break those deals at the mid-way point, move in and conquer Jerusalem, he will outlaw Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. all religions when he comes to power. You can't have people serving other God and be worshiped as GOD !! He will then chase Israel (the ones that flee) into the Wilderness where God protects them for 1260 days, the rest he subjugates or kills. He will then go after the Remnant of the Church (Small part of) that became Christians after the Rapture. Notice at this time he comes after Israel and the Christians. This gives you a hint what he is going to do with slam also. Killing billions of people requires a reason for such a crack-down. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. all is the Harlot, she is destroyed by the Kings that are in league with the Beast....Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

    There can only be ONE GOD if you want to be worshiped as God you have to destroy all of the others.
     
  17. Handmaid for Jesus

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    Already done. A.D. has become CE .
     
  18. Revealing Times

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    They use C.E. and B.C.E. for the Gregorian Calendar. My point is he will change all Calendars to a YEAR ONE if you know what I mean. He will change the Jewish Calendar to YEAR ONE from 5777 today or whatever it will be at that time, be it 5799 or 5810 etc. etc. There will be no AD and BC, there will be no CE and BCE there will be a new Calendar........YEAR ONE of the GREAT GOD...........!!!
     
  19. Handmaid for Jesus

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    OK, now I see what you were saying. :)
     
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    Heb 12:18  For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, 
    Heb 12:19  and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore. 
    Heb 12:20  (For they could not endure what was commanded: "AND IF SO MUCH AS A BEAST TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN, IT SHALL BE STONED OR SHOT WITH AN ARROW." 
    Heb 12:21  And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I AM EXCEEDINGLY AFRAID AND TREMBLING.")

     
    Heb 12:22  But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 
    Heb 12:23  to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 
    Heb 12:24  to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. 

    We have not come to Mount Sinai, but to the New Covenant of Mount Zion, instead.


    2Co 3:6  who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 
    2Co 3:7  But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 
    2Co 3:8  how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 


    Some of us are still hanging onto the ministry of death written on stones.

    Gal 4:24  which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 

    Gal 4:30  Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN AND HER SON, FOR THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE HEIR WITH THE SON OF THE FREEWOMAN." 

    Gal 4:31  So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free. 


    They fail to cast out the covenant of bondage, which is a covenant of works.


    The doctrine of the Judaisers is still with us today.
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