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What I believe and teach.

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Andy centek, Jan 6, 2018.

  1. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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    I have for over 50 years been deeply studying the scriptures of the Bible. I remember at about the age of 8 desiring to understand God. A friend of my dad saw me looking at his New Testament and ask me if I wanted it. To which I said, yes. Later, climbing up on a tree a started to try and read it; it however, made no sense to me. Then, throughout the growing years I kept seeking to understand God. Finally when I started a new job, one of the men their was reading the Bible and I began to ask Him about it. That was the moment that God took my hand and started me on my life long journey to studying His words.
    Yes, I came through various churches and could find only division of opions on the word of God. Then I was lead by the Spirit to seek on my own through much prayer and study, the truth of what is being told to man in these scriptures. Remember, the Bible was form by the Roman Catholic church, and later passed into England and rewritten into the King James Version that became so popular. Despite man's fingers, the truth is there for those who TRULY SEEK IT OUT!Let God do it His way.

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  2. Antig

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    Nice post. Welcome

    Blessings to you
     
  3. Greg Merrill

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    I like your post, but would respond: The Scriptures didn't begin with the RCC, but with God passing them directly to chosen writers like Moses and the Apostle John (2 Timothy 3:16). The Scriptures were completed some 200 years before the seeds which would become the RCC were planted around 300 A.D. Know that there were two sources of manuscript copies of the now non-existent originals, from which Bibles come from, corrupt copies from Alexandria, Egypt (From which modern translations come) and copies from Syria, upon which the KJV is based.
    The KJV has it's own problems, is not perfect, and should not be considered as the only version that should be used. With this "nutshell" understanding above, one could have a good start in studying the Scriptures which would guide one in to a proper church to consider joining, and which churches to avoid.
     
  4. OldWiseGuy

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    True. God's way seems to have been to place the KJV into the hands of the common people. More specifically a certain people.
     
  5. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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  6. OldWiseGuy

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    Welcome, Andy. :wave:
     
  7. Albion

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    Welcome, Andy. Does "Non-Denominational" mean that you don't attend any church?
     
  8. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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    NAMES OF JESUS

    THE TITLES OF THE LORD



    Little attention seems to be given to the titles used in the Bible scriptures for the names pertaining to Jesus, yet these are as important and are the other things in the scriptures.

    First to be considered is the name Jesus.



    Luke_1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and ` shalt call his name JESUS.



    The meaning is: Yahshua .This carriers with it the meaning of the Savior. There are some questions that need to be answered here before moving on to His other titles. First, who was He sent to? He was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He was not sent to the entire world as in commonly taught. Jesus had been promised way back in the Old Testament, and after the dispersion of Israel, the northern kingdom, He came into the land of Judeah, to His chosen people; not to the entire world as generally taught. This is a very important thing to understand. How many times today in the man's churches is it hear: Come up here and be saved in Jesus name? Far to many times! This last statement would require a writing in itself and will not be entered into here.



    Then is given in Math 1:1 the seed line from which Jesus came through; that is, the physical seed line. This is a deep story in itself.



    Mat_1:17 -18 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.



    Notice that Jesus birth came by the way of the Holy Spirit and not Joseph's seed. He was then a spiritual Being coming in the flesh to do His Father's pleasure.



    Mat_11:27 All things are delivered unto me of My Father: and no man knows the Son, but the Father; neither knows any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him.



    It should be clear now that Jesus came through the power of the Holy Spirit to do His Father's will. Hence, the Lord Jesus. He is the Lord of the Jews to whom He was sent by His Father. This is why Jesus made this statement that follows; and tell us that He came only to the Jews and not th entire world.



    John_10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.



    The other sheep were the Gentiles whom Jesus sent the apostle Paul to so that they too, could b brought into the one fold. This in itself should tell the careful reader that Jesus was sent only to the Jews and that His teachings were only the Jews.



    Yet man persist on taking what was written to the Jews only and applying it to their Denominational teachings. Woe be unto them; for they shall be judged for that which they teach.



    Having said this I also say, there is much to be learned from Jesus teachings. However, leave to Israel what is given to Israel, and take what was given to the apostle Paul for the Gentiles to learn by and live by. Two is the number of division in the Bible scriptures; what divides men today spiritually? Denominations.



    Rom_12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.




    Php_2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    Php_4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    Andy Centek

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  9. Greg Merrill

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    No. There are many Non-Denominational churches. Denomination denotes a name or type. Examples of Denominational Churches are: Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, etc. A non-denominational church may have a name like "Dallas Community Church" or "Dallas Bible Church". Such a church may be totally independent from any associations or "fellowships", though it may still associate with them or not. It varies.
     
  10. Albion

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    I was asking Andy what the term meant in his case, so that we could know him better.
     
  11. Greg Merrill

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    Oh. I understand now. Thanks.
     
  12. OldWiseGuy

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    Peter was sent to the Jews, Paul to the Gentiles, Jesus to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel"-the lost tribes (as distinct from the "house of Judah"-the Jews).

    It was the lost tribes that were the "other sheep". He said "my sheep know my voice". Neither gentiles or the Jews 'knew his voice', but those in Galilee, where he began his ministry, did and eagerly sought after him. Matthew 4:14-16

    After being soundly rejected and threatened by the Jews Jesus "no longer walked (ministered) among the Jews". John 7:1
     
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  13. Little Lantern

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    Greetings, and welcome to CF, Andy. May you find godly encouragement, warm fellowship, and the love of Christ here. God bless you.
     
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  15. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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    Did not the scriptures begin with Adam? Let Us created Man. Jesus physical seed line is traced back to Adam. Of course His spiritual birth was not accomplished by a man but rather by the Holy Spirit's work in Mary.
    Perhaps one needs to consider Abel and compare that event with Jesus Christ death. Notice that Adam did not have a son in His physical likeness until Seth. I am in the process of writing a long book on these events; which are far reaching indeed.

    Thanks for your reply, and may your endeavor be give great understanding.

    Andy Centek
     
  16. Greg Merrill

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    My reference to "The Scriptures" refers to the written documents upon which God's Word is written and totally makes up, not to those subjects (Adam, Abel) to which the Scriptures refer.
     
  17. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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  18. Andy centek

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  19. Andy centek

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    Hi GREG

    Yes, you are correct about the scriptures. I suppose I use that term rather loosely because the majority today do no go beyond the so-called Bible. I understand your point however. Thanks for the reply.

    Andy Centek
     
  20. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

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    Hi GREG

    Yes, you are correct about the scriptures. I suppose I use that term rather loosely because the majority today do no go beyond the so-called Bible. I understand your point however. Thanks for the reply.

    Andy Centek
     
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