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What Holidays May I celebrate this upcoming Season?

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by teresa, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. CherubRam

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    The Messiah to come (Yahshua) was never to be a being to be worshipped. This would have been an extremely big deal in the Jewish community if it was truly taking place. And that is one of a number of reasons the Jewish community rejects the New Testament as being the word of God. Yahshua directed us to worship Yahwah only, and stated that he does not accept any glory from mankind.

    John 5:41
    “I do not accept glorification from human beings,

    Matthew 4:10
    Yahshua said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God, and serve him only.’ ”

    Luke 4:8
    Yahshua answered, “It is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God and serve him only.’ ”

    In the scripture he is quoting, "the Lord" is Yahwah. Yahshua did rebuke the woman, saying he did not have the authority to decide who sits by him.

    Matthew 20:21
    “What is it you want?” he asked. She said, “Grant that one of these two sons of mine may sit at your right and the other at your left in your kingdom.”
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    Matthew 20:23
    Jesus said to them, “You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant.
     
  2. visionary

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    Celebrate...The Feasts of God
    Rosh Hashana Sep 21-22 Th‑Fri The Jewish New Year
    Yom Kippur Sep 30 Sat Day of Atonement
    Sukkot Oct 5-6 Th‑Fri
    Oct 7-11 SaT‑Wed Feast of Tabernacles

    and you can also join in other celebrations too.
    Shmini Atzeret Oct 12 Th Eighth Day of Assembly
    Simchat Torah Oct 13 F Day of Celebrating the Torah
    Chanukah Dec 13-20 W‑W The Jewish festival of rededication, also known as the Festival of Lights
     
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  3. teresa

    teresa Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Thank you visionary! this is perfect-just what I was looking for:ebil:
     
  4. Zaan

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    I have a question about Rosh hashanah. I've been getting stuff all planned & ready for it myself and found that online some people use the name Yom Teruah instead, or interchangeably.

    Do you prefer to use the name Rosh Hashanah or Yom Teruah? Or do you think it doesn't matter?

    I'm just curious, seeing as apparently in the Torah it was called Yom Teruah (day of shouting) but it was later changed when the Mishnah sages associated it with the start of the Civil Jewish year, making it the head of the year (Rosh hashanah).
    Do you think it makes any difference at all or not?
    I heard from someone that in Israel if you said Yom Teruah, most people wouldn't know what it is. I don't know if that's true or not.
    I was thinking that if the focus is shifted it might distract people from it's true meaning, making it more of a New Year celebration. I've seen that everyone says "Shanah Tovah", meaning "(Have) a good/sweet year" like that is the main focus.

    So to those who observe it, how do you view it yourselves? Do you think most Jews think of it that way now, or has it still retained it's original meaning?
     
  5. Steve Petersen

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    Is Rosh Hashanah the New Year?
     
  6. gadar perets

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    I use Yom Teruah since Rosh Hashanah is not the head of the year according to Scripture. The name "Rosh Hashanah" also hides the important Hebrew word "teruah" which, when studied in depth, reveals the true meaning of the day.
     
  7. Zaan

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    Thanks Steve, that was an interesting article. :)

    Do you have any info or links that explain the meaning of Teruah further? From what I've read it means to "shout/make a loud noise (with a trumpet)"or a battlecry from a war trumpet/horn, that's why it's also called the Feast of Trumpets.
     
  8. gadar perets

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    The Day of Trumpets / Yom Teruah
     
  9. Zaan

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  10. gadar perets

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    I don't see how the first day of the 7th month can be the "head of the year" and Sukkot be said to be in the "end of the year" (Exodus 23:16). The last day of the 6th month would be the end of the year if the year started the next day.
     
  11. Steve Petersen

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    According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the Feast of the Ingathering is Sukkot.

    TABERNACLES, FEAST OF - JewishEncyclopedia.com

    BTW, other translations say 'at the turning of the year.' This doesn't necessarily mean the end, but could also refer to a time near the beginning.
     
  12. gadar perets

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    I know that. I used "Sukkot" so people would know the Feast of Ingathering is Sukkot.

    Which translations use "turning"? There are 21 versions here that use "end".
     
  13. Steve Petersen

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    Exodus 34:22

    NIV, NASB, Holmann, ISV, JPS Tanakh, Douey-Rheims, Darby,
     
  14. gadar perets

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    We are talking about two different verses. My post #130 referred to Exodus 23:16.
     
  15. Steve Petersen

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    Different verse, same festival.
     
  16. gadar perets

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    What's the difference as it relates to"Rosh Hashanah"? Sukkot cannot be when the year ends or turns to begin a new year if that occurs on the first day of the seventh month. Either the year ends/turns on the last day of the sixth month or it does so at Sukkot.
     
  17. visionary

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    Feast of Trumpets is the First day of the seventh month and start of the civil year.[1] Hebrew name is Rosh Hashanah which literally means head of the year on the Jewish calendar it falls around September or October depending on the year. It is Tishri 1 of the Jewish month and first day of the year on the Jewish civil calendar.

    The Jews have two calendars, one which they call the sacred calendar and the other that they call the civil. They believe that since God never abrogated the old calendar when He gave them the new calendar they are to have two calendars.

    This is why Joel says that Messiah will come in the first month, both for the first coming and for the second, both in the spring and in the fall. Interesting that you find seven trumpets in Revelation and not many people have made any connection with the Feast of Trumpets.

    It would take understanding of the Feast of Trumpets throughout scripture and prophecy of Old and New Testament prophets to glean concepts and understand the significance of the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets is about remembrances, a memorial, but the Bible does not tell us what you are supposed to remember!

    Neither the name of the festival or the meaning of the festival is made explicitly clear in the Bible. The symbolism of this festival is something of a mystery, a sort of Bible riddle begging to be solved. The Bible grants us only two sparse verses to explain the festival:


    [1] Leviticus 23:23-24
     
  18. visionary

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    Leviticus 23:23- 24. In the seventh month, on first day of the month, it will be for you a Sabbath, a trumpet blast memorial, a sacred assembly. All regular work you shall not do, and you shall cause to be brought near to the LORD an offering made by fire.

    This memorial is yet to have an event to memorialize it. There is yet to be a fulfillment of this event.
     
  19. visionary

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    "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, 'Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter' and immediately I was in the spirit; and, behold, a Throne was set in heaven, and the One who sits on the Throne."

    This is a Hebrew idiom for the day of Rosh Hashanah, and the beginning of the 10 days of Teshuvah. To make that connection, you must understand that the gates of heaven are opened on Rosh Hashanah, the door is opened into the Heavenly temple, the books of everyone’s life is opened up to be viewed by the judge of all mankind, God Himself.
     
  20. gadar perets

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    Numbers 10:9 - "And if you go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresses you, then you shall blow an alarm [rua] with the trumpets; and you shall be remembered before YHWH your Elohim, and you shall be saved from your enemies."

    Numbers 10:10 - "Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, you shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your Elohim: I am YHWH your Elohim."


    The word "alarm" in verses 5 & 6 is "teruah" and the word "alarm" in verse 9 is "rua," #7321, which is a root of "teruah" and means, "to mar (especially by breaking) fig. to split the ears (with sound), ie. shout (for alarm or joy)."

    By these verses we can see that "teruah" is associated with alerting Israel of impending danger or war. It is an alarm sounded by blowing the two silver trumpets.


    Notice, in verse 9, that when the trumpets are blown, YHWH will "remember" Israel and save them from their enemies. I believe this is why the word "memorial" is used in Leviticus 23:24. Unlike the Sabbath or Passover which are memorials of creation and the exodus, the Day of Trumpets is not a memorial of some past event for us to remember. It is a memorial for YHWH to remember His people when the alarm is sounded. Verse10 suggests the same idea concerning the trumpets being a memorial for YHWH.
     
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