What event or events could possibly re-elect Trump now?

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Based on what? Biden is something like 10% ahead in the polls. That's not what most people would call a toss up.

DO NOT underestimate the DNC's ability to lose something. I'm not saying that as a "slam" on the DNC. They are perfect in every way. I'm just saying that they found a way to field a candidate who went up against someone who is currently overseeing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and doing nothing but commuting the prison sentences of his friends, so the DNC can literally lose anything it sets its mind to.
 
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Massive voter suppression or foreign interference, which is why I don't think the outcome is certain.

It's not "interference" if "L'etat" asks for it. Remember "L'etat c'est moi" ultimately requires that what is good for the king is good for the country. If the king requires help from outside to guide the country to do "the right thing" then it is all good. Putin will merely be a "puppet" in the hands of our brilliant leader as he masterfully uses Putin to help us make the "RIGHT" decision in November.
 
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DO NOT underestimate the DNC's ability to lose something. I'm not saying that as a "slam" on the DNC. They are perfect in every way. I'm just saying that they found a way to field a candidate who went up against someone who is currently overseeing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and doing nothing but commuting the prison sentences of his friends, so the DNC can literally lose anything it sets its mind to.

democrats do love to snatch defeat from the hands of victory :>
 
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He won on razor thin margins in 2016. Demographic shift has slid against him in four years. In a presidential election you need to carry your base plus some. He has done nothing to bring that plus some with him. His base is solid but he has nothing to bring more in.

He also has nothing to promise people for the second term. Go to his campaign website, there are no plans for the next term.

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What has he done about single payer healthcare? Nothing. What have the Democrats done? Elizabeth Warren proposed something unaffordable. What has he done about structural unemployment? Nothing. What have the Democrats done, Andrew Yang had an idea.

I'm really worried that nobody is going to fix anything, just coast along and get benefits from lobbyists.
 
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What has he done about single payer healthcare?

He's given us HOPE. Hope that one day he WILL reveal his secret plan for a program to replace the ACA with something much, much better.

And hope sometimes is the best medicine. (And it's almost free! So it's like super-medicine!)

I'm really worried that nobody is going to fix anything, just coast along and get benefits from lobbyists.

Welcome to America! SOMEONE is getting paid and that is all we need to worry about. Fixing things is so "20th Century" type thinking!
 
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I'd say our greatest threat then is being trampled to death by rabid unicorns running roughshod through the streets. But hey, "it could happen!"
What do unicorns have to do with the virus?
 
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What do you think people would think if the virus either went away or became far less serious fewer deaths and fewer and much shorter hospital stay?

The virus isn't magically going to go away or become less deadly. So such if such changes occur it will be because of improved medical procedures or a vaccine. At this point all but the diehard Trump supporters would at least wonder how many many more would have lived if those changes had occurred sooner which they would have except for ineptitude and deliberate downplaying by Trump.
 
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His only chance now, is that his supporters buy into his 180 on wearing masks and slow the spread so that enough independents are willing to excuse him only killing 200,000 americans through negligence.
I hope his supporters are ready for the whiplash they’re about to receive from spinning so fast to defend him. You watch, they’ll be saying they were encouraging masks and social distancing all along.
 
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I hope his supporters are ready for the whiplash they’re about to receive from spinning so fast to defend him. You watch, they’ll be saying they were encouraging masks and social distancing all along.

It’ll be good practice when they pretend they never even heard of Trump and would never support such a horrible human being after he is no longer in power.
 
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What event or events could possibly re-elect Trump now?

Given his "narcissistic" personality, Donald J Trump will never be able to accept being voted out of office and assuming that he will be facing multiple criminal prosecutions at the state and federal levels once he becomes a private citizen, this President will do everything in his power legally and/or otherwise to remain in office for a 2nd term!

In addition to the traditional Republican playbook that attempts to suppress the Democratic vote, Trump will be focusing on Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin - all those swing states that allowed him to win a majority in the Electoral College, despite receiving 3 million fewer ballots in the national popular vote!

Trump is also quite capable of creating a constitutional crisis by declaring the 2020 Election to be "rigged" and therefore not legally binding, or he could use the COVID-19 Pandemic to declare a national emergency, impose martial law and attempt to hold the election at some later date, more favorable to his re-election chances!

Even if Trump were to allow himself to be voted out out of the White House, I predict that he would negotiate a deal whereby he would voluntarily relinquish office peacefully a few days before the end of his term, on the condition that Acting President Pence would grant him a presidential pardon or commutation - assuring that he would never serve jail time!
 
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What event or events could possibly re-elect Trump now?

Given his "narcissistic" personality, Donald J Trump will never be able to accept being voted out of office and assuming that he will be facing multiple criminal prosecutions at the state and federal levels once he becomes a private citizen, this President will do everything in his power legally and/or otherwise to remain in office for a 2nd term!

In addition to the traditional Republican playbook that attempts to suppress the Democratic vote, Trump will be focusing on Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin - all those swing states that allowed him to win a majority in the Electoral College, despite receiving 3 million fewer ballots in the national popular vote!

Trump is also quite capable of creating a constitutional crisis by declaring the 2020 Election to be "rigged" and therefore not legally binding, or he could use the COVID-19 Pandemic to declare a national emergency, impose martial law and attempt to hold the election at some later date, more favorable to his re-election chances!

Even if Trump were to allow himself to be voted out out of the White House, I predict that he would negotiate a deal whereby he would voluntarily relinquish office peacefully a few days before the end of his term, on the condition that Acting President Pence would grant him a presidential pardon or commutation - assuring that he would never serve jail time!

That’s fine to stop federal prosecution but the state of New York is chomping at the bit to get a piece of Trump. A presidential pardon will do nothing to save him from that.
 
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Even if Trump were to allow himself to be voted out out of the White House, I predict that he would negotiate a deal whereby he would voluntarily relinquish office peacefully a few days before the end of his term, on the condition that Acting President Pence would grant him a presidential pardon or commutation - assuring that he would never serve jail time!
Who would he make the deal with?
 
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That’s fine to stop federal prosecution but the state of New York is chomping at the bit to get a piece of Trump. A presidential pardon will do nothing to save him from that.
I wouldn't put it past this President to force all the Governors to forgo future prosecutions as his condition for relinquishing the White House peacefully - otherwise he could rally his supporters and there would be blood in the streets - he is quite capable of invoking the 2nd Amendment as a safeguard against a "rigged" election by the "deep state!"
 
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I wouldn't put it past this President to force all the Governors to forgo future prosecutions as his condition for relinquishing the White House peacefully - otherwise he could rally his supporters and there would be blood in the streets - he is quite capable of invoking the 2nd Amendment as a safeguard against a "rigged" election by the "deep state!"

This sounds like Trump is going to take the Oval Office hostage. Even if the governors agree to it, which there is no legal basis for sticking to it, an Attorney General or District Attorney can easily not abide. Unfortunately for Trump, becoming president could very likely go down as the biggest mistake of his life.
 
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Who would he make the deal with?
Trump could make a deal with Pence and/or the Democratic President Elect for a presidential pardon or commutation - in exchange for leaving the White House peacefully and not appealing for his conservative "deplorables" to take to the streets and/or surround the White House!

As previously mentioned, Trump could also demand a side-deal with the Governors to forgo any state prosecution - given the alternatives, I could see VP Pence, President-Elect Biden and the nation's Governors doing what it takes to avoid an ongoing constitutional crisis and widespread violence!
 
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This sounds like Trump is going to take the Oval Office hostage. Even if the governors agree to it, which there is no legal basis for sticking to it, an Attorney General or District Attorney can easily not abide. Unfortunately for Trump, becoming president could very likely go down as the biggest mistake of his life.
People like Trump usually end up on their feet, because when push comes to shove "narcissistic" stable geniuses only care about themselves, not the collateral damage they impose on others!

Despite 70,000 testing positive daily, 40+ million unemployed and the healthcare systems in several states overwhelmed, Donald J Trump's is unlike any of the previous Presidents who have held that office, and should not be underestimated!

It is not beyond the realm of possibility that in the midst of all these national crises which have diverted the nation's attention, Trump could be the first Commander-in-Chief to refuse to accept the results of the election, attempt to postpone the election itself and/or choose not to leave office peacefully!
 
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