What does the Greek word Πρώτη also mean?

[InKarpathos]

I am writing a book and I have come up upon some scripture in Matthew 26:17 where it states "Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?"

The original Greek version has it as
"Τῇ δὲ πρώτῃ τῶν ἀζύμων προσῆλθον οἱ μαθηταὶ τῷ Ἰησοῦ λέγοντες αὐτῷ· ποῦ θέλεις ἑτοιμάσωμέν σοι φαγεῖν τὸ πάσχα;"

I have read somewhere that the word πρώτῃ means before, which in Greek make sense, but I need some documentation for this. Does anybody have any information where I can find this.
Is their an online Greek dictionary that has this definition?

 

[Sabertooth]

Just copy and paste it to the Google search box [πρώτῃ English]...

 

[InKarpathos]

Google does not cut it as a reference source. I need some type of official publication

 

[Natsumi Lam]

I am writing a book and I have come up upon some scripture in Matthew 26:17 where it states "Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?"

The original Greek version has it as
"Τῇ δὲ πρώτῃ τῶν ἀζύμων προσῆλθον οἱ μαθηταὶ τῷ Ἰησοῦ λέγοντες αὐτῷ· ποῦ θέλεις ἑτοιμάσωμέν σοι φαγεῖν τὸ πάσχα;"

I have read somewhere that the word πρώτῃ means before, which in Greek make sense, but I need some documentation for this. Does anybody have any information where I can find this.
Is their an online Greek dictionary that has this definition?

Studylight classic interlinear bible

 

[gzt]

Liddell and Scott would be authoritative - Greek Word Study Tool

Specifically here, starting at B.: Greek Word Study Tool

Which all suggest "first" - which makes sense as the superlative rather than the comparative. However, my Greek is rusty, though this isn't the first superlative/comparative I've looked at today and I haven't even finished my tea.

 

[Greg J.]

The most authoritative resource I know of is the (10 volume) Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT). There is an abridged 1 volume version which can be enough for the non-researcher.

 

[icxn]

Πρῶτος (masculine form of πρῶτη) means first. Πρότερος means the one before.

 

[ArmyMatt]

if there is a local Greek priest, you could email him

 

[InKarpathos]

I figured out how I can solve my problem with the passage of John 13:1 where it states that they had the last supper before the feast of Passover.

"Now before the feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end."

Also reading the first passage again, I figured out that Πρώτη must mean before the even happened for the following reason.

The order of events are
Nissan 14 - Passover Dinner at night
Nissan 15 - First day of Unleavened Bread
Nissan 21 - Seventh day of Unleavened Bread.

Mark 14:12 reads
"And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the Passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the Passover?"

They asked him where to eat the Passover dinner, which is a day before the Unleavened Bread on Nissan 14.

Therefore it has to mean before the day of Unleavened Bread and Passover.

Else they asked him on Nissan 15 where are we going to eat on Nissan 14, does not make sense.

Thanks for your help and I hope that I was able to get my point across, the last supper happened before Nissan 14 and was probably on Nissan 13

 

[~Anastasia~]

(Posting glitches and user error sorry )

 

[~Anastasia~]

If you need an easy resource or source to quote, I would also suggest Moulton's Analytical Greek Lexicon. I picked up a volume for a good price because it was recommended to me by a friend who is associated with a Greek monastery (in Greece).

Here's one edition (not the same as mine though) - https://www.amazon.com/Analytical-Greek-Lexicon-Harold-Moulton/dp/0310202817

And there's an old version free to borrow online - The Analytical Greek lexicon revised : Moulton, Harold K. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive (not quite sure how that works but I saw it.)

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I figured out how I can solve my problem with the passage of John 13:1 where it states that they had the last supper before the feast of Passover.

"Now before the feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end."

Also reading the first passage again, I figured out that Πρώτη must mean before the even happened for the following reason.

The order of events are
Nissan 14 - Passover Dinner at night
Nissan 15 - First day of Unleavened Bread
Nissan 21 - Seventh day of Unleavened Bread.

Mark 14:12 reads
"And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the Passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the Passover?"

They asked him where to eat the Passover dinner, which is a day before the Unleavened Bread on Nissan 14.

Therefore it has to mean before the day of Unleavened Bread and Passover.

Else they asked him on Nissan 15 where are we going to eat on Nissan 14, does not make sense.

It happened before Passover. The meal was a Pesakh Seudah HaMafsekhet...literally the "last supper" before the fast of Ta'anit B'khorot (fast of the firstborn) which occurred from sunrise to sunset on the 14th. Yeshua fulfilled even this on the cross.

 

[Sabertooth]

Google does not cut it as a reference source.

It offers pages that do.

 

[mothcorrupteth]

Sometimes the KJV translators rendered πρῶτος as "former" even when it wasn't the comparative form, πρότερος, but that's kind of splitting hairs. If you're talking about two things, of course the thing that comes first is going to be the former one--i.e. the one that is before the other one. Nobody's absolutely sure that πρὸ is etymologically related to πρῶτος, but what other contenders are there in Proto-Indo-European? Take a look at literally any other PIE language, and you'll see that the word for "first" evolved from some word that meant "before." So yeah: little surprise that Greek held onto that similarity of meaning.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

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if there is a local Greek priest, you could email him

 

[buzuxi02]

It's a stretch to Interpret πρώτη as "before". Most likely those who do are equating the words πρώτου ( first) with προτού (prior), both pronounced almost the same way.

 

[InKarpathos]

It happened before Passover. The meal was a Pesakh Seudah HaMafsekhet...literally the "last supper" before the fast of Ta'anit B'khorot (fast of the firstborn) which occurred from sunrise to sunset on the 14th. Yeshua fulfilled even this on the cross.

Thanks I did not know this information, I will use it in my book

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

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if there is a local Greek priest, you could email him

 

[InKarpathos]

It happened before Passover. The meal was a Pesakh Seudah HaMafsekhet...literally the "last supper" before the fast of Ta'anit B'khorot (fast of the firstborn) which occurred from sunrise to sunset on the 14th. Yeshua fulfilled even this on the cross.

I really want to thank you again. This information was extremely helpful to me and because of your post, I was able to find more information on this matter.

May God Bless you and your family.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I really want to thank you again. This information was extremely helpful to me and because of your post, I was able to find more information on this matter.

May God Bless you and your family.

No problem. I wish more Orthodox would understand these things within the original context of the Judaism they originated in. Shalom