So now you have coined the 2000 year church age - the 2000 year tribulation period - reading into Revelation 7? sheesh. In lieu of what the text says - "Great Tribulation.
Is 2000 years Greater than 7? You are the one limiting Gods ability to use the word GREAT....Not me, I just figured out what it means. Those dead under the ALTER in the 5th Seal are told THEY MUST wait until their fellow brothers are killed also. So they would not be in Heaven at anytime would they? THINK ABOUT IT !! The Beheaded are told in Rev. 20:4 that they will reign with Christ on earth for 1000 years. So they are NEVER IN HEAVEN !!
But John sees these Saints IN HEAVEN in Rev. ch 7. Why would you expect to see the Beheaded Saints in Heaven at ANY POINT in time?
Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (They are Judged and stay on earth, they are never in Heaven.)
So at what point are they supposedly seen in Heaven? They reign on Earth with Christ 1000 years. The whole Rev. 7 are the Saints in Heaven falls apart brother, you know why? Because it the Church Age Saints in Heaven, via the Rapture. The point is to get you to think straight, without the men's traditions, I worded it different so you wouldn't have the hangup. The Church is whee the Saints shown in Heaven in Rev. 7 came from. And they (WE) went through GREAT TRIBULATION !!
From the bible, what says all seven years are Jacobs troubles?
I fail to see why it matters. The overall point you can't see is the TROUBLES and the 3.5 years of Gods Wrath is different. Jacobs Troubles happens during the 70th Week, there, you like that phrasing better? Now you show me where the bible says the Troubles of Jacob are not the full Seven Years. If you think you will understand why I call it 7 Years of Jacobs Troubles, I will prove here 100 percent why my thought process is right. BEAR WITH ME HERE.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace.
In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Rev. 1:9 I John, who also am your
brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev. 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; 9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Romans 5:3 And not only
so, but we glory in
tribulations also: knowing that
tribulation worketh patience;
So the whole CHURCH AGE was Tribulation, Jesus stated YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION, so the whole Church Age from Jesus' death until the Rapture is TRIBULATION, if the Rapture happens today we would have been Raptured from this Earth to Heaven, and the dead will have been raised, who ALL were in this same 2000 years pf TRIBULATION which Jesus said we HAD TO BE IN.
Now the Church is gone, but the Jews convert, they accept their Messiah and many more Gentiles accept Christ, thus those Jews and those who converted after the Rapture are living in a FULL SEVEN YEARS of Tribulation, BECAUSE JESUS STATED............You WILL HAVE TRIBULATION. So if the 2000 years is Tribulation, and it is the SEVEN YEARS are all Tribulation also.
We will have Tribulation until Jesus Raptures us OR until Jesus comes back at the Second Coming to rescue those still on earth.
2000 years of TRIBULATION CHURCH AGE
7 years of Tribulation (Jacobs Troubles)