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What do you need clarified?

Discussion in 'Christian Apologetics' started by Shahab, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. Shahab

    Shahab New Member

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    What knowledge are you missing from the big picture that is bothering you? From the beginning of the world to eternity. From small to large. Hell and heaven. Good and evil. What would you like clarified?
     
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  2. Gracia Singh

    Gracia Singh Newbie Supporter

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    Why are pangolins so cute?

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  3. Stranger36147

    Stranger36147 Active Member

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    Why am I such a failure in so many ways?
     
  4. Tinker Grey

    Tinker Grey Wanderer Supporter

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    You understand this is a science sub-forum?
     
  5. FrumiousBandersnatch

    FrumiousBandersnatch Well-Known Member

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    1. Why the initial entropy of the universe was so low.
    2. The best interpretation of quantum mechanics.
    3. The origin and frequency of life in the universe.

    Not necessarily in that order.
     
  6. Shahab

    Shahab New Member

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    Because his hands look like human hands and he's standing on two feet
     
  7. Shahab

    Shahab New Member

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    You're just learning. That's how great things could begin.
     
  8. Shahab

    Shahab New Member

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    1. Because everything started from a single point. Entropy means disorder. How can there be a lot of disorder when everything is cramped around a single point?

    2. Quantum mechanics is based on the idea of probability. Probability itself is based on the idea that it is possible to predict things without knowing the underlying causes of the event you're trying to predict. Lack of knowledge is the basis for probability. It's no surprise that Quantum mechanics reaches the same conclusion as the assumption that probability is based on. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It is formulas with no good story to connect them. It's not a good theory.

    3. A living being is something that can always grow. That's it. What you call universe, is always growing (Hubble observation). That means it is a living being.
    Life started in the waters. Water looks blue from the outside but when you're deep inside of it, it is dark. Just like when we look outside our planet and we find ourselves floating in darkness. The story of life is packed into this planet from the start to this moment. But that is a copy of the original story. This planet is a seed that life grows out of. This seed can be planted elsewhere with modifications to create something different. So to sum it up, the origin of (what you call) universe is the same as origin of life on this planet. It started in the darkness. We can see it from the outside when we look at the beginnings of life in the oceans and we can see it from inside when we look at the sky.

    These are very short answers. I'll try to make some graphic illustrations to make the points better.
     
  9. FrumiousBandersnatch

    FrumiousBandersnatch Well-Known Member

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    AFAIAA there's no evidence for that. The observable universe would have been extremely small relative to its current size (the singularity is not generally taken to be real, but a mathematical artifact), but the whole universe is vastly bigger than the observable universe, and may have been (and may still be) spatially infinite.

    That's a rough approximation and not always correct - for example, a bottle containing half oil and half water has higher entropy in the unmixed state than in the mixed state (i.e. when well shaken), whereas the opposite is true for coffee and cream.

    As above, that's not a viable description - whatever it's size then relative to its size today, it was the whole universe, and it was all very hot, very dense, and very uniform.

    However, the question isn't so much how we characterise the big bang state, but why it should start that way given the time-symmetric fundamental laws of physics.

    Theories are based on their performance, not whether they have a 'good story', and quantum theory is by a long way the best physical theory we have in terms of the precision of its predictions.

    However, my question was not about quantum theory per se - but about the best interpretation of it, i.e. its metaphysical meaning.

    Many things can grow, e.g. crystals, celestial bodies, polymers, sinkholes, etc., but are not considered living things; my question concerned what is generally be considered to be life/living. There are many definitions, but growth alone is not definitive.

    This answers neither point in my question. I'm after at least one detailed abiogenesis sequence, and at least the ratio of planets with and without life. Naturally, I don't expect anyone to provide the answers today.

    Please don't trouble yourself.
     
  10. Sanoy

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    (What does meroz refer to in judges 5:23? ) Nevermind, you probably mean this toward non creationists.
     
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  11. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    Because they’re closely related to dogs (and other Carnivora )
     
  12. Yttrium

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    Everything about the nature of matter.
    - How and why matter has gravity.
    - The mechanics of subatomic particles (including all quantum effects).
    - The origin of matter in the universe.
    - The true nature of black holes.

    A complete explanation of consciousness.
     
  13. Stormy

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    So I quess you are not offering clarification. You are just curious?

    Ok I will bite.

    God has made himself known to me. I have had experiences totally out of the ordinary. And yet, he chose to take two of my children..

    I love God. I know God to be. But I am totally upset at him!

    Although it was kind that he did send a message to me that my lost son was fine. I really appreciated that gift. But I am unable to keep my promise that I will also be fine IF I know that he is fine.

    I am not fine, but I do feel guilty for promising that I would be.

    Of course God being God knew that it would not happen. My greif knows no end.
     
  14. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    The one question I had , how exactly did fish become amphibians was answered about 20 years ago
     
  15. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    o I can answer that . It’s because you’re not !
     
  16. carlv_52

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    How could the movie Xanadu be so unbearably awful but the soundtrack be so great?
     
  17. carlv_52

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    That's why we were discussing pangolin cuteness.
     
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  18. carlv_52

    carlv_52 Active Member

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    I tried gluing checkers onto my dog to see if I could make a pangolin...it wasn't as cute. I think your hypothesis is thus disproven.
     
  19. Tanj

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    Why are Marvel movies usually great and DC movies routinely awful?
     
  20. Tone

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    May I have three more wishes?
     
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