I don’t think it’s speaking
for women when you write what women have shared themselves. If a
male (grrr those damn males
,) if a male screens 10,000 women, and 9,000 say they want their man to be
taller than they are, when I come onto the topic and tell young men that women tend to value tallness I’m not speaking
for women or putting words in their mouth, they put the thought in my head!
That’s not the same as you or I writing
“that’s just our humble opinion” either, because it’s not an opinion,
“women like tall men” is a factual thing, it implies there might be a minority who don’t, while sharing the info that more than 51% of you ladies out their want a tall bloke.
I know women who like skinny, shaven, dapper-dressed city boys. I know others who like beefy, rugged, bearded, lumberjack types. I know women who love bald heads, and some who can't stand them.
Well, more power to people who want to believe that women everywhere will choose Danny Devito over Chris Hemsworth.
Ah, I don't agree at all!
You don’t agree that the sex who are disproportionately on the receiving end of rejection
(and as a result have less opportunity to form relationships) rate women higher as an unintended result?
You also disagree that women
(who have an excess of attention in comparison to the male) rate men lower in attractiveness than men rate women? The thing is that women are
already receiving attention, and as a result they play hardball in finding a potential mate.
Men aren’t receiving that same attention, that results in more of a male simp atmosphere
(which women often promote.) The man is in competition with other men and can’t afford to lose his place as a possible suitor by being short on praise for the woman. He must rate her higher than she rates him.
My point isn’t that women have a narrower scope of men they’re interested in, but rather that women are
selective because they have options. They pick and reject, remember men are disproportionately on the receiving end of rejection because they pursue.
Women can afford to be stingy with their likes, men
(who are significantly less pursued) can’t be as picky with their likes
(not if they want to be successful.) This plays out in men flattering women by inflating their overall attractiveness score, while women underscore men for a variety of reasons.
We can
overstate individual preferences in people, but there’s a clear trend when we do meta studies on things like attraction. Saying
“we’re all different people with our own fingerprints and different wants and desires” is a non answer here, which is fine until we realise there are actually good answers available on the subject of attraction.
On the meta studies the kind of things you expect show up again and again, women want tallness, even skin, symmetrical features, hair!
Can a short man win in the game of love without hair? Sure, don’t let the fact crush you, but I say, let young guys go into this with both eyes open.
“Oh yh yh yh but I love the Rock and he’s like so bald, so women clearly have more variety in their tastes.” Yeah that’s fine but it’s baldness on top of a dump truck of muscle!
Having differences might work for men on occasion, but we need to train men for the norm, not the exception.
In the army I want troops trained to fire guns before they’re trained to do back flips and split legged kicks
Will the split legged kick ever be useful???? Maybe.... but using a gun is way more common
Same advice for shy men, yes, there’s 1 lady unicorn out there who would love your shyness, but the vast majority won’t.
We can turn into bones and dust on this chair waiting for the magical shyness loving ladies or we can develop confidence.
I definitely agree. I am not a fan of women who aggressively pursue men.
Mmhmm, but about the aggressively pursuing point. People could try to muddy the waters there like how it’s already happening in the attraction topic, for example someone might reply...
“hey! You don’t anything dude, I proposed to my last husband, I initiate sex, I’m alpha in our relationship. Don’t tell me men pursue, everybody is a different body!” Literally none of that helps Andrew.
It tells him nothing about the dating world or finding someone to share life with. “Every woman is a different woman” just confounds young men and makes them helpless, so they can be further blamed by the women in their life for being useless.
Just because
some women are aggressive and
some women will date swamp thing doesn’t mean we should tell young men to sit on their Todd looking like swamp thing and wait for these aggressive women to kick down the door and take them in a passionate embrace. They’ll be waiting a
looooong time!
Well, there's a difference between "rejecting" and "breaking hearts"
Both result in that feeling of worthlessness though. The big difference is that men face the obstacle of being rejected straight from the get go, no preamble into any sort of relationship.
How dare you, sir. How
dare you possess more muscle mass!
Don’t forget greater bone density,
them bones them bones them sexist bones
Perhaps what's partly to blame (at least sometimes) is the tendency for men to seek "a girlfriend" or "a woman" instead of a relationship.
So it’s not the young woman’s fault, the same young woman who’s told from a young age
(in the church no less) that she’s a princess and should expect to be treated as such.
The same young women who due to a comparative excess of attention
(compared to men) ordinarily controls the terms of the relationship in such a way that nobody really leaves happy.
The untrained man is to seek out
“a whole person” to
“grow and learn from” when the young women in his life have neither the depth of character to be called whole people or the wisdom to teach him anything except how to simp for them.
Now that sounds harsh, but hold your fire.
I’m saying if you
really believe your average 20 something year old has depth of character and wisdom to teach you deep things.... you’re probably a 20 something year old.
I’d say to this person in your 30s we can talk again and I’m sure you’ll agree, 21 year old you was like a 2D piece of paper compared to 31 year old you. The 20s are formative years, the brain isn’t even fully developed until your mid 20s.
Don’t take it personally when they do, they’re just protecting themselves from creeps (work hard not to be one!)
