So what? Nancy Pelosi says she's Catholic, too, but she doesn't live the Catholic faith, being very pro-abortion. There are many, many people who claim they're Catholic, and proudly, yet aren't. Regardless of what he states in his document.In mein kamph I can get the page if you with Hitler says " I am always have been and always will be catholic"
Hindsight and inaccurate. There is no relationship between Revelation and current history. I believe that Revelation was written prior to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, and most of the cataclysm relates to that. It may be a foretelling of the future, but your interpretation is...your interpretation. The significance of the Edict of Milan was that Christians would stop being persecuted officially by the Roman empire.Any thoughts on this?
312AD – Emperor Constantine issue the Edict of Milan to treat Christians with benevolence and start courting Christians: Miltiades, Bishop of Rome, received a “gift” from Constantine - The palace of Empress Fausta - where the Lateran Palace, the future papal seat and residence of the papal administration would be built… The great apostasy of II Tess. 2 starts - many compromise their faith for power and prestige.
380AD – Emperor Theodosius I (a politician) issue the Edict of Thessalonica, declaring Christianity the religion of the Roman Empire and the clay (the believers, Isaiah 64:8) mixes with the Iron (Rome) – Fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel 2:33.
476AD – Western Roman Empire falls – 10 kingdoms raise from that fall – the 10 fingers of clay and Iron in the prophecy of Daniel chapter 2 and the 10 horns in the prophecy of Daniel 7:24, Revelation 13 and 17. The only leadership position left standing from the former empire is the Bishop of Rome, the little horn.
533AD – Justinian (a politician), 500 years after Christ, declares the primacy of the Bishop of Rome – The little horn of Daniel 7:8 gains power.
538AD – After delivering the city of Rome from the Ostrogoth, Justinian decree is enforced in Rome – Antichrist (Papacy) is set in power at Rome. Prophecy in 2 Tess. 2:4 fulfilled. The Ostrogoth were the last one of the three horns (the other two where the Herulli and the Vandals) that the little horn would destroy in its rising according to the prophecy in Daniel 7:8.
1590AD – Pope become the False Prophet of Revelation 13 when they create a false interpretation of Daniel 9:27 (antichrist in a 7 year tribulation in the future) to hide the fact, preached by Protestants, that the history of the papacy fulfills everything that is told in the bible about the antichrist up to that point and therefore the papacy is the Antichrist foretold by Daniel, Paul and John.
1798AD – Napoleon troops arrests the Pope and seize his properties, inflicting the mortal wound to the first Beast (Europe dominated by the Pope) of Rev. chapter 13. The 1st beast of revelation 13 reigns exactly 1260 years (42 prophetic months, 1260 prophetic days, from 538 up to 1798) as the prophecy states in Rev. 13:5.
1929AD – The mortal wound is healed and the Vatican becomes once again a country in which the king is the pope – the beast is healed but this time clothes itself like the Lamb Jesus (piety and humble) but continues to speak like the devil (false/against Christ doctrines). The new beast have two horns (leaders): The white pope and the black Pope – The general Jesuit.
1957AD – With the TREATY OF ROME, the False Prophet of Revelation 13 (the Pope) starts creating the image of the previous beast – The European Union - as foretold in Revelation 13.
Present – Under the unified leadership of the Popery, three powers - the economic powers of Europe (Dragon), the political powers of the United Europe (Beast) and the pope himself (False Prophet) - work to gather the world (Globalization) against God for Armageddon – the Final fight against God is on the works, fulfilling Revelation 16:13.
We believe the opposite, which is not surprising.Well, it's not. And it won't be the same no matter how much any of us wish it were.
In today's Church, the bishop is the head of the local Church. In the ancient Church, there were many leaders, but one head. All the apostles were leaders. Jesus made them so, distinct from the disciples. Paul was an evangelizer, first and foremost. He led the way at spreading the faith. Peter seems to have gone in after the Churches were established. That doesn't mean he didn't have the keys Christ gave him to bind and loose.One way to examine the concept of the Papacy is to look at the developments from the post-Apostolic period until recently. But a better one is to look at what the Early Church, the Apostolic Church, thought about the matter.
If we do this, we find that some of the Church Fathers said then that Peter and Paul jointly were the leaders of the church, others said it was James, others said it was all three equally, and there were even some other slants on the subject voiced. None of them anything about Papal Infallibility. I am now just referring to the idea of a titular head or bishop of greatest honor.
When I have time my friend I will post links of catholic bishops in the 70s 80s or 90s sorry I don't remember which decade on video saying no one was gassed by the nazis at the camps which is a odd thing for anti nazi pro jews to say also the catholic church has a LONG history of persecuting jews in europe links to come when I canSo what? Nancy Pelosi says she's Catholic, too, but she doesn't live the Catholic faith, being very pro-abortion. There are many, many people who claim they're Catholic, and proudly, yet aren't. Regardless of what he states in his document.
The fact is that the country of Germany, including the Catholic Church in Germany, was held hostage. Pope Benedict was forced into the Army in his youth. But the Catholic Church, in the name of Pope, helped Jews by hiding them, and producing false baptismal documents to thwart the Nazis.
Can we provide information from history or scripture and let it speak for itself? I do not wish to offend anyone, only to spread the truth , if I am ever in error I beg to be corrected.
The iron mixed with clay in the statue is. Defeated by the rock cut out without human hands.Any thoughts on this?
312AD – Emperor Constantine issue the Edict of Milan to treat Christians with benevolence and start courting Christians: Miltiades, Bishop of Rome, received a “gift” from Constantine - The palace of Empress Fausta - where the Lateran Palace, the future papal seat and residence of the papal administration would be built… The great apostasy of II Tess. 2 starts - many compromise their faith for power and prestige.
380AD – Emperor Theodosius I (a politician) issue the Edict of Thessalonica, declaring Christianity the religion of the Roman Empire and the clay (the believers, Isaiah 64:8) mixes with the Iron (Rome) – Fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel 2:33.
476AD – Western Roman Empire falls – 10 kingdoms raise from that fall – the 10 fingers of clay and Iron in the prophecy of Daniel chapter 2 and the 10 horns in the prophecy of Daniel 7:24, Revelation 13 and 17. The only leadership position left standing from the former empire is the Bishop of Rome, the little horn.
533AD – Justinian (a politician), 500 years after Christ, declares the primacy of the Bishop of Rome – The little horn of Daniel 7:8 gains power.
538AD – After delivering the city of Rome from the Ostrogoth, Justinian decree is enforced in Rome – Antichrist (Papacy) is set in power at Rome. Prophecy in 2 Tess. 2:4 fulfilled. The Ostrogoth were the last one of the three horns (the other two where the Herulli and the Vandals) that the little horn would destroy in its rising according to the prophecy in Daniel 7:8.
1590AD – Pope become the False Prophet of Revelation 13 when they create a false interpretation of Daniel 9:27 (antichrist in a 7 year tribulation in the future) to hide the fact, preached by Protestants, that the history of the papacy fulfills everything that is told in the bible about the antichrist up to that point and therefore the papacy is the Antichrist foretold by Daniel, Paul and John.
1798AD – Napoleon troops arrests the Pope and seize his properties, inflicting the mortal wound to the first Beast (Europe dominated by the Pope) of Rev. chapter 13. The 1st beast of revelation 13 reigns exactly 1260 years (42 prophetic months, 1260 prophetic days, from 538 up to 1798) as the prophecy states in Rev. 13:5.
1929AD – The mortal wound is healed and the Vatican becomes once again a country in which the king is the pope – the beast is healed but this time clothes itself like the Lamb Jesus (piety and humble) but continues to speak like the devil (false/against Christ doctrines). The new beast have two horns (leaders): The white pope and the black Pope – The general Jesuit.
1957AD – With the TREATY OF ROME, the False Prophet of Revelation 13 (the Pope) starts creating the image of the previous beast – The European Union - as foretold in Revelation 13.
Present – Under the unified leadership of the Popery, three powers - the economic powers of Europe (Dragon), the political powers of the United Europe (Beast) and the pope himself (False Prophet) - work to gather the world (Globalization) against God for Armageddon – the Final fight against God is on the works, fulfilling Revelation 16:13.
Wasn't binding and losing authority given to all of the Apostles? Matthew 18:18.In today's Church, the bishop is the head of the local Church. In the ancient Church, there were many leaders, but one head. All the apostles were leaders. Jesus made them so, distinct from the disciples. Paul was an evangelizer, first and foremost. He led the way at spreading the faith. Peter seems to have gone in after the Churches were established. That doesn't mean he didn't have the keys Christ gave him to bind and loose.
I am asking for clarification not to be rude or anything as that causes nothing productive if I was to state a fact from history that involves a particular group its okay to name them but to name a group only in negative speculation is a no no correct?Yes, but I'd suggest that identifying particular groups as apostate etc. goes beyond that and could be read as flaming.
You are NIT picking. The following website. Which rejects Roman Catholic claims. To support the papacy based on Isaiah 22...Well, it's not. And it won't be the same no matter how much any of us wish it were.
So the statue in Daniel has already come to pass? Will be back friend.The iron mixed with clay in the statue is. Defeated by the rock cut out without human hands.
The Rock is obviously the rock of Peter and all of the Apostles and the Church of Jesus Christ.
That Rock spiritually converted the Pagan Roman Empire in the third century AD under saint Lawrence.
Emperor Constantine and his Christian successors. Entrenched that victory. The Rock of the church had already won by the fourth and fifth centuries AD.
The statue had already been shattered by that time.
I would love to see substaintiation of these claims. Would I be disappointed if you couldn't supply it? NoIf we do this, we find that some of the Church Fathers said then that Peter and Paul jointly were the leaders of the church, others said it was James, others said it was all three equally, and there were even some other slants on the subject voiced.
Also this would mean that the church /apostles are the rock? Not Peter alone or Christ alone (the rock is the Lord in all I've seen reading everywhere except that one passage depending on how you believe its worded) Please elaborate.The iron mixed with clay in the statue is. Defeated by the rock cut out without human hands.
The Rock is obviously the rock of Peter and all of the Apostles and the Church of Jesus Christ.
That Rock spiritually converted the Pagan Roman Empire in the third century AD under saint Lawrence.
Emperor Constantine and his Christian successors. Entrenched that victory. The Rock of the church had already won by the fourth and fifth centuries AD.
The statue had already been shattered by that time.
You mean Gog and Magog.So the statue in Daniel has already come to pass? Will be back friend.
I'm just being non controversial. Every Christian believes. That. The True Spiritual Church of Christ is the spiritual temple constructed of spiritual stones. Symbolizing each individual true. Christian.Also this would mean that the church /apostles are the rock? Not Peter alone or Christ alone (the rock is the Lord in all I've seen reading everywhere except that one passage depending on how you believe its worded) Please elaborate.