What denomination does not celebrate Christmas?

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No, it's not. It's a Christian holiday.

It depends how you define Christmas. I can assure you that today in Vietnam Christmas decorations are in the major public areas, but virtually nobody there is a Christian, much less associates the holiday with the religion. Interestingly, Black Friday is celebrated in Vietnam, but not Thanksgiving.
 
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It depends how you define Christmas. I can assure you that today in Vietnam Christmas decorations are in the major public areas, but virtually nobody there is a Christian, much less associates the holiday with the religion. Interestingly, Black Friday is celebrated in Vietnam, but not Thanksgiving.
The context of my statement that Christmas is a Christian holiday was in direct response to someone claiming Christmas is a "pagan holiday" which it never was. Still, your example of the secularization of Christmas does not negate the fact that Christmas is originally a Christian holiday. So, no, it doesn't depend on how you define Christmas.
 
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Secular Christmas built itself upon the Christian Christmas tradition. Christian Christmas did not built itself upon pagan ritual. If anything secular Christmas built itself on pagan ritual and expropriated the Christmas name.
 
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The context of my statement that Christmas is a Christian holiday was in direct response to someone claiming Christmas is a "pagan holiday" which it never was. Still, your example of the secularization of Christmas does not negate the fact that Christmas is originally a Christian holiday. So, no, it doesn't depend on how you define Christmas.

Thanks for defining it nice and crisply for us. You are correct in that Christmas originated as a Christian holy day. The fact that secular aspects have found their way into the holiday does not negate its origins.
 
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The fact that secular aspects have found their way into the holiday does not negate its origins.
I wonder if the pagans were upset that Christianity found it's way into their origins? :) Did it negate anything?
 
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I wonder if the pagans were upset that Christianity found it's way into their origins? :) Did it negate anything?

If modern society is any indicator, Christian intrusions into pagan religions are generally welcomed. For example, it is almost de rigeur in the Far East today for a bride to wear a white Western-style gown, even though white is the traditional color of death and is supposed to be worn only when mourning. Also, in Japan it is quite popular for the wedding couple to have two services - a traditional one at a Shinto shrine and a Western one in a fully accurate Christian chapel (usually attached to a large hotel for the wedding reception) with a "Christian" officiant performing the standard American-style Christian wedding.
 
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Also, in Japan it is quite popular for the wedding couple to have two services - a traditional one at a Shinto shrine and a Western one in a fully accurate Christian chapel (usually attached to a large hotel for the wedding reception) with a "Christian" officiant performing the standard American-style Christian wedding.
Wonder how much of that revolves around commercialism and consummerism, like secular Christmas.
 
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I am Messianic, and although Messianism is not a denomination I know, personally, of no Messianics who celebrate Christmas other than my husband -- who sort of does, sort of doesn't. I do not celebrate it.
 
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Christmas is a practice adapted from pagan religion.
That is true. You can look at historical documents and they will admit it. One of these documents include the Catholic Church catechism.
 
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That is true. You can look at historical documents and they will admit it. One of these documents include the Catholic Church catechism.
No, it's not true. My Church is older than the Roman Catholic Church and we observe Christmas and it is absolutely NOT taken from a pagan holiday.
 
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If anything it replaces other holidays.

If that is the case, then it has a very long way to go to replace the Lunar New Year in the Far East. After decades of Communist domination, the Lunar New Year remains, by far, the most popular holiday in China.
 
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