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What Covid?

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Yesterday they interviewed a prominent person from Florida who owned a business. It showed the business with all employees not wearing masks.
He was questioned as to why he and they were not wearing masks. The guy said he won't and never will because covid is not real. It is not true. He said he never wears one and is a busy person around a lot of people and he is as healthy as a horse.
What's that about? There are many that believe this. They must believe in a conspiracy but what and if there is why and who is doing it?
I just don't get it
Do you?
Today a talk show said that unfortunately people that believe this way will have to be hit personally with it.
 

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Many who get infected with Covid never get symptoms and have antibodies now, I know many people who are out and about all sorts of people without masks till they were forced upon everyone that have not had any symptoms of Covid at all. It is possible that everyone at that business got it back way early before the news hit as I've heard of a few stories of people around here that got sick in January, sicker than usual with symptoms of it and have recovered and thought it was just a strong flu.
 
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Yes i can answer brother.. although i see not much of the church knows this truth . Here goes
In "Matthews 15:10-20
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."

So from this brother we see that its what comes out of your heart defiles you.. Not with washing your hands or with germs like the world teaches; what connect to this is that sin is brings to death.. mm i can also find you the connection between sin and sickness.. but to summarize where is when the blind man comes in and the disciples ask what sin did he or his parents commit.. and God jesus says never did this man sin but is blind so that the works of God can be manifested through him... but never denies or says he is wrong to say that that man can be sick because of sin.. among other examples i can find.. Again sin defiles you and not germs or virus like we are taught .. we believe and God and this is wat the bible teaches.. Using a mask is something we do because the bible says to go with the ordinance of men for the sake of god nd in the book of james it saiys to remain unspotted from the world; so causing a commotion isnt beneficial i think ;just saying
 
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A lot of people think it's not real because they don't know anyone who caught it. Or if they did catch it, the symptoms were mild. That's been my personal experience as well. There was one old friend I followed of FB who died from it, but he was in an extremely a poor state of health. There are people in my church, which consists of older people, who need prayer for cancer and other problems, but not covid.

It's hard to tell how much of it is real and how much of it is conflated for the sake of profit and politics. There's daily news about it, which is pretty much just the same stuff day after day.
 
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Many who get infected with Covid never get symptoms and have antibodies now, I know many people who are out and about all sorts of people without masks till they were forced upon everyone that have not had any symptoms of Covid at all. It is possible that everyone at that business got it back way early before the news hit as I've heard of a few stories of people around here that got sick in January, sicker than usual with symptoms of it and have recovered and thought it was just a strong flu.
But there is death all around them how can they deny that it exists? Those who say there is none usually imply that it is a conspiracy, that we are falling for and there isn't anything that is killing the people or that people have died.
 
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You know... It's just irrisponsible. I work on the covid floor in my hospital (the intensive care unit), and I get to see people struggle against the illness every time I work that floor.

Like... Why? Do people not care about getting others sick? THAT'S why we wear masks and take precautions; not for ourselves, but for others.

Behavior like this is just selfish. It's gross.
 
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A lot of people think it's not real because they don't know anyone who caught it. Or if they did catch it, the symptoms were mild. That's been my personal experience as well. There was one old friend I followed of FB who died from it, but he was in an extremely a poor state of health. There are people in my church, which consists of older people, who need prayer for cancer and other problems, but not covid.

It's hard to tell how much of it is real and how much of it is conflated for the sake of profit and politics. There's daily news about it, which is pretty much just the same stuff day after day.
Except that the death toll keeps going up and out of hand.
They said that there were more deaths in Jan from covid. then the whole season of it.
 
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But there is death all around them how can they deny that it exists? Those who say there is none usually imply that it is a conspiracy, that we are falling for and there isn't anything that is killing the people or that people have died.

It's more like perceiving that not that many more people are dying than normally die anyways. That many who were already dying from a terminal disease (including old age) technically died of covid.
 
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It's more like perceiving that not that many more people are dying than normally die anyways. That many who were already dying from a terminal disease (including old age) technically died of covid.
In all my life there have never been hospitals full up and morgues on wheels in the parking lot. I can't say this is normal loss.
 
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Except that the death toll keeps going up and out of hand.
They said that there were more deaths in Jan. then the whole season of it.

That's what they said. But did that many more people die this Jan than in past Januarys?
 
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In all my life there have never been hospital full up and morgues on wheels in the parking lot. I can't say this is normal loss.

I haven't seen anything like that happening. I've just heard reports.
 
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The guy said he won't and never will because covid is not real.

There is also a bunch of people who say that Australia isn't real.
I don't get that either.
I even saw a video where a nurse said there are people diagnosed with Covid who still deny it is Covid.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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That's what they said. But did that many more people die this Jan than in past Januarys?

In the hospital I work at, every single room in the ICU is full of covid patients, and we get dozens of patients rushed to our ER who need covid precautions because they are suspected covid positive(and 90% of the time are confirmed). Maybe you don't live in a high population density area, but I do.

As for deaths, the stats are there. You only have but to look at them.

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CDC Library: COVID-19 Science Update: 01/08/2021

The red is influenza, the blue is covid. Keep in mind, this data is going to change once the european variant takes hold... Not sure how it will effect lower population areas, but larger population areas like mine will be hit hard. So far the deaths from this thing equate to more than 150 nine elevens; that's just in this country. That's not small.
 
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There is also a bunch of people who say that Australia isn't real.
I don't get that either.
I even saw a video where a nurse said there are people diagnosed with Covid who still deny it is Covid.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Have you ever seen this so called Australia with your own eyes?

Oh wait... never mind.
 
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In the hospital I work at, every single room in the ICU is full of covid patients, and we get dozens of patients rushed to our ER who need covid precautions because they are suspected covid positive(and 90% of the time are confirmed). Maybe you don't live in a high population density area, but I do.

As for deaths, the stats are there. You only have but to look at them.

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CDC Library: COVID-19 Science Update: 01/08/2021

The red is influenza, the blue is covid. Keep in mind, this data is going to change once the european variant takes hold... Not sure how it will effect lower population areas, but larger population areas like mine will be hit hard. So far the deaths from this thing equate to more than 150 nine elevens; that's just in this country. That's not small.

I'm being purposely skeptical here. There are excess people in ICU and in the ER, but how many really need to be in ICU and in the ER? I've been under the impression that people are being put in ICU as more of a precaution than a necessity. Not all of course, but a certain percentage.

As for the graph, I have to wonder how many were already close to dying from disease and old age etc. The one person I knew in real life who died of covid, had already been intubated a couple of times prior to covid. He was already practically in hospice care.
 
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Those that believe it is a conspiracy need to tell me who is behind it and what they gain by perpetrating the conspiracy.

Not so much a conspiracy as an exploit. Like the old saying goes, follow the money. And covid has certainly been exploited politically. Like covid was all Trump's fault. I wasn't a Trump fan, but please.
 
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That's what they said. But did that many more people die this Jan than in past Januarys?
For you they need to do stats for all other deaths and then for covid deaths for a year:)
 
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Not so much a conspiracy as an exploit. Like the old saying goes, follow the money. And covid has certainly been exploited politically. Like covid was all Trump's fault. I wasn't a Trump fan, but please.
who and how are they making any money?
 
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So right here we have skeptics. What has caused you to be non believers when it is all around you. What do you gain by denying it?
What money is made and by who and for what reason besides money do they want to fool the whole world. And biggest of all is THE WHOLE WORLD IS IN ON IT, boggles my mind.:scratch::scratch::waaah:? Maybe for your own peace of mind you just can't accept it. I can sort of understand that.
 
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