What church calls leadership is a corrupt theology

[FenderTL5]

Hi.. There are mostly the same realizations going on throughout Christiandom.
Its falling into two groups.. Those who follow
A mam made system and those who realized God didnt make a man made ststem and " church" has never been about a place or building one Goes to.

The word church in English is a translation of the word EKKLESIA ..
It literally means " the called out ones'

Those called Out of the world who gather to Jesus.
Where or when or how many is irrelevant.

The system of what is called church is a man made heirachy which (even though it denies it) demands one be in submittance to its hierachy .
Some saying if you dont join it you xant be saved. Buts that has no scriptural basis.
It is a complicated topic .
But one aspect that musy be clarified...
The church are those people called out of the world who gather to JESUS...
It is those people who have obeyed that call.
To be a part of it one must believe repent of sin . bury thier old life in Christ acording to scripture and recoeve the holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit then leads people into all truth.
He never leads people into idolatry
Or covetousness but always to Jesus .the one who IS truth..
He said the gentiles(heathen, those who have not repented but remain in sin ) exercise Authority over one another and Lord it over one another... But with you it is NOT so....

So we see that those who seek to RULE over the called out ones.. Are NOT of the called out ones...

Now , many who would say.." But my church is not like that " immediatly contradict themselves..because a congragation is not a church... It is a gathering of the ekklesia .a gathering of the called out ones.
It has no set day no set form no individual leader but Jesus the head .Who governs it by the Holy Spirit.
It is a living entity in which God by his Holy Spirit dwells. A temple Not made by mens hands.
It is so very far removed from the man made system that not only can they not see it.in times past they murdered those of it .
And persecute it still today.
It is not a place it is not a building ,it is not rum by men or ruled over by men , it is not subject to men and never will be..
It is the body of Christ and answers only to its head.
Its not a denomination its in no one definable place .
It is not Of this world.it is In this world but it is not of this world .
It is Spiritual.. For God is Spirit and those who worship him must do so in Spirit and in truth.
Not in organisations made by men or buildings to capture them in.

I'm curious; how many of the NT epistles do you dismiss as non-authoritative, in whole or in part? You obviously dismiss all of the instruction on the qualifications for Bishops, Presbyters and Deacons etc. So do you reject those letters in their entirety or just the portions dealing with church leadership/authority?

Which brings up an even more interesting conundrum as to the authority of the epistles in general. Do you know why those letters were considered to be authoritative and worthy to be included in the canon? How do you reconcile your rejection of authority with the authoritative nature of the canon itself?

 

[Alithis]

I'm curious; how many of the NT epistles do you dismiss as non-authoritative, in whole or in part? You obviously dismiss all of the instruction on the qualifications for Bishops, Presbyters and Deacons etc. So do you reject those letters in their entirety or just the portions dealing with church leadership/authority?

Which brings up an even more interesting conundrum as to the authority of the epistles in general. Do you know why those letters were considered to be authoritative and worthy to be included in the canon? How do you reconcile your rejection of authority with the authoritative nature of the canon itself?

I count all the letters of the bible as truth.
I also see the exterior meanings MAN has added to the epistles ... Its why they Hid the scriptures for so many centuries..
To keep people from seeing the plain writen truth .that man has no place lording it over the body of CHRIST..
That Jesus alone is the ONLY head over his body and he governs it by HIS Holy Spirit.
Such as he raises up are foundations beneath to lift the body not to dominate it.
Just as the Ird Jesus said ... To exercise authority ,to lord it over.. " it is NOT so with you...

 

[Alithis]

Hi.. There are mostly the same realizations going on throughout Christiandom.
Its falling into two groups.. Those who follow
A mam made system and those who realized God didnt make a man made ststem and " church" has never been about a place or building one Goes to.

The word church in English is a translation of the word EKKLESIA ..
It literally means " the called out ones'

Those called Out of the world who gather to Jesus.
Where or when or how many is irrelevant.

The system of what is called church is a man made heirachy which (even though it denies it) demands one be in submittance to its hierachy .
Some saying if you dont join it you xant be saved. Buts that has no scriptural basis.
It is a complicated topic .
But one aspect that musy be clarified...
The church are those people called out of the world who gather to JESUS...
It is those people who have obeyed that call.
To be a part of it one must believe repent of sin . bury thier old life in Christ acording to scripture and recoeve the holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit then leads people into all truth.
He never leads people into idolatry
Or covetousness but always to Jesus .the one who IS truth..
He said the gentiles(heathen, those who have not repented but remain in sin ) exercise Authority over one another and Lord it over one another... But with you it is NOT so....

So we see that those who seek to RULE over the called out ones.. Are NOT of the called out ones...

Now , many who would say.." But my church is not like that " immediatly contradict themselves..because a congragation is not a church... It is a gathering of the ekklesia .a gathering of the called out ones.
It has no set day no set form no individual leader but Jesus the head .Who governs it by the Holy Spirit.
It is a living entity in which God by his Holy Spirit dwells. A temple Not made by mens hands.
It is so very far removed from the man made system that not only can they not see it.in times past they murdered those of it .
And persecute it still today.
It is not a place it is not a building ,it is not rum by men or ruled over by men , it is not subject to men and never will be..
It is the body of Christ and answers only to its head.
Its not a denomination its in no one definable place .
It is not Of this world.it is In this world but it is not of this world .
It is Spiritual.. For God is Spirit and those who worship him must do so in Spirit and in truth.
Not in organisations made by men or buildings to capture them in.

And again

 

[Alithis]

It is not unpredictable that a lot of those unwilling to step back and ask the questions
Are those from certain circles who have been taught that the church itself is an authority over the church.. But the scripture never states that.

In any ones body.. Ones own body does not have authority over itself .but everyones body is ruled only by its head.
The body is not ruled by the body ..

 

[Alithis]

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