What Christians think about Trump?

[Bobber]

There are, however, something like 2.2 billion Christians in the world, 2.14 of whom did not and would not, ever, support an indecent man like Donald Trump.

Sorry but I take with a grain of salt that there are two billion real practising Christians in the world. It'd be nice if there was and I hope there will become such but if there was 2 billion Christians, and I mean REAL Christians I hardly think a major portion of the number you cite wouldn't see the absolute evil of abortion even up to 9 months and not support Trump regardless of his occasional strong talk. Sorry my spiritual gut won't accept that.

 

[jgarden]

So I am confused, what does this have to do with this particular thread?

They appear like sheep. Does that mean they appear as part of the Lord's flock?

This thread is about Trump and one thing no one would say about him, regardless of what you think, is that he has crept in unnoticed.

Are you saying that we have had fake news for quite awhile and now the end has come and what are we going to do now?

They should have exposed our iniquity so we could repent but instead told us false and misleading things like the cigarette companies did with the seven dwarfs testifying before congress?

What does the apostate church have to do with Trump?

Yes, we have seen these doctrines infect the church recently. But what is the connection to this thread?

Oh, your talking about draining the swamp.

So help us out, connect the dots for us.

There is a reoccurring theme throughout both the Old and the New Testaments whereby, more often than not, the Lord's prophets are prosecuted and killed, while the "false prophets" are welcomed and embraced because they are invariably the bearers of good news - willing to tell an adoring public whatever it wants to hear!

 

[jgarden]

Sorry but I take with a grain of salt that there are two billion real practising Christians in the world. It'd be nice if there was and I hope there will become such but if there was 2 billion Christians, and I mean REAL Christians I hardly think a major portion of the number you cite wouldn't see the absolute evil of abortion even up to 9 months and not support Trump regardless of his occasional strong talk. Sorry my spiritual gut won't accept that.

The ProLife supporters talk a good game, bur are unwilling to make the slightest efforts when it comes to promoting the very conditions in America that could change the decisions of many young women as whether to continue with a full term pregnancy!

Does anyone honesty think that by repealing Roe v Wade, American's young women will willingly turn the back the clock 50 years, and voluntarily surrender to the moral dictates of a few, wealthy, conservative, "white" males in Washington who neither know nor care about the personal challenges that confront them?

For most of the nation's history, Catholics voted or appointed to high public offices were viewed with suspicion by the Protestant majority - prior to 1940, the total number of RC justices appointed to the Supreme Court could be counted on just one hand!

Now that abortion has become a dominant political issue, the early 21st C has ushered in the "golden age" of conservative Catholic justices on the Supreme Court - if the current nominee is successful, that will bring the total to 6, with 2 Jewish Americans and 1 Episcopalian - who, coincidently, had been reared in a Catholic home!

 

[Bobber]

The ProLife supporters talk a good game, bur are unwilling to make the slightest efforts when it comes to promoting the very conditions in America that could change the decisions of many young women as whether to continue with a full term pregnancy!

Sorry but that's such a vague criticism. Fact is it wouldn't necessary matter what the economic situation of people was. You'd still have many that'd want to terminate a pregnancy any time they want to. Even 9 month in. Surely you know this?

 

[Yesitstrue]

 

[Jermayn]

And yet God is glorified because a hungry mouth is fed.

-CryptoLutheran

You're saying that Jesus's work must be restricted to the Church. You're trying to put Him in a box. Everything is His. If He uses the government to feed the poor, then we are to give Him the glory. Are you saying that He does not deserve that glory? Or does He only deserve the glory when He feeds the hungry in a way that justifies your political perspective?

He may be glorified by you, but here's the question you need to ask. Is this leading people to Jesus? Let's replace the government with Islam for a second. Say you're a non-believer and your starving and about to lose your home. The local Mosque comes in, feeds you, and pays off your mortgage. Do you really think that person is thanking Jesus, or do you think they'd be more inclined to lean on Islam? So, of course he deserves glory when he feeds the hungry, but if your only concern is the physical and financial well-being of the people being fed, I personally feel like you only care about your own spiritual well-being and no one else.

 

[jgarden]

Sorry but that's such a vague criticism. Fact is it wouldn't necessary matter what the economic situation of people was. You'd still have many that'd want to terminate a pregnancy any time they want to. Even 9 month in. Surely you know this?

An ongoing Pandemic, millions of unemployed Americans and their families, food and shelter insecurities, nationwide protests in response to George Floyd's death and a federal government that stopped providing benefits after July are all specific reasons as to why young women would at least have second thoughts about bringing another child into the world at this time!

Young women are seeking stability in their personal lives combined with those surrounding economic, social and political factors that contribute to their optimistic assessment of the future for themselves and their child!

Although government will never be in position to address all of these variables, it can invest in those programs that could make a serious impact on a woman's decision to continue with a full-term pregnancy - were the state seriously committed to reducing the abortion rate!

 

[Yesitstrue]

Leaving the conspiracy theories aside, I want you to consider this. Politicians make a lot of promises; they usually don't come through after being elected.

President Trump has delivered on his promises to take action on behalf of religious liberty and against abortion. It is not a matter of promises.

If he had promised and not delivered...I feel that the Evangelical and Catholic Christian communities wouldn't be as supportive as they are. They, after all, have been lied to before on both of those accounts and by all sorts of politicians.

Did you know there were less abortions when there was more health care available through planned parenthood?

 

[Albion]

Did you know there were less abortions when there was more health care available through planned parenthood?

How does that affect your thinking about the morality of aborting inconvenient children??

Or to put it another way, that's like arguing that in states where marijuana sales and use are legal, there are fewer arrests for possession.

 

[Yesitstrue]

This is America this business of having an abortion up until due date is crazy.

Planned Parenthood is so much more than just an abortion clinic. Planned Parenthood states that they grant service to 9.8 million people and provides STI testing, birth control, breast exams and sex education. The irony in banning this organization is that it can help preventunwanted pregnancy in the first place. Planned Parenthood is a critical outlet that women can seek out for reproductive help and safety.

No one should have to be forced to bear an unwanted child, especially as a result of factors such as rape, teen pregnancy and lack of access to contraceptives.

Barret believes abortion is “always immoral,” and opposes LGBTQ+ rights and the Affordable Care Act.

88 of BARRETTS COLEAGUES signed a document saying she should withdraw from Supreme Court nomination.

Affordable care act protects pre existing conditions keeps insurance from capping what insurance spends on you. My wife would not be covered for her second fight against cancer if this still was allowed. Kids up to 26 no longer covered on insurance. That helps everyone. Hospitals etc the lessons burden hospitals have to care for the uninsured.

 

[Thomas White]

He may be glorified by you, but here's the question you need to ask. Is this leading people to Jesus? Let's replace the government with Islam for a second. Say you're a non-believer and your starving and about to lose your home. The local Mosque comes in, feeds you, and pays off your mortgage. Do you really think that person is thanking Jesus, or do you think they'd be more inclined to lean on Islam? So, of course he deserves glory when he feeds the hungry, but if your only concern is the physical and financial well-being of the people being fed, I personally feel like you only care about your own spiritual well-being and no one else.

Your logic is flawed. You would refuse someone food because a Muslim is giving them food? You would refuse someone food because the government is giving them food?

 

[Yesitstrue]

No one should have to be forced to bear an unwanted child, especially as a result of factors such as rape, teen pregnancy and lack of access to contraceptives.”

The main reasons people visit a Planned Parenthood are contraceptive access (31 percent) and STI/STD testing and treatment (45 percent). More than double the number of people visited Planned Parenthood clinics in 2014 for pregnancy tests than for abortion procedures.

If Planned Parenthood were to be defunded, women won’t be the only ones to lose out. While services vary depending on location, men can visit clinics for prostate, colon, and testicular cancer screenings, vasectomies, male infertility screenings, and sexual-health services, among other necessary health treatments. In 2014, Planned Parenthoods nationwide provided vasectomiesto 3,445 men.

The argument goes that if Planned Parenthood were to be cut off from federal funding, America’s taxpayers would benefit. But without the necessary and low-cost health care available at PP, Medicaid spending would actually go up for the federal government and taxpayers. In low-income areas, where women depend on Planned Parenthood for Medicaid-funded contraceptive services, unwanted pregnancies would rise, which would then put a much bigger — and more long-term — burden on Medicaid spending. ThinkProgress estimated that defunding PP would cause Medicaid spending to increase by $650 million over ten years.

Before Justice RBG military women if pregnant would have to get an abortion or get out of military.

There is supposed to be separation of church and state.
There are many that say catholics aren't real Christians. What is going on?
One of Planned Parenthood’s undersung resources is the wealth of information provided not only in clinics but online, too, at a time when sex education is critically lacking nationwide. Planned Parenthood websites receive approximately 60 million visits a year, and the organization offers both text and call options for teenagers (and adults) who are curious about sex, family planning, sexually transmitted diseases, and contraceptives. Representatives from PP assert that the clinics and information available exist as a means to educate and are not intended to encourage or push young people into anything they are not ready for. (Several studies have shown that providing young people with access to sex education is not correlated to an increase in sexual risk-taking.) Many clinics have teen advocates for other teenagers to speak to, and services offered to teens of all ages are confidential.

 

[Yesitstrue]

Trump does jot really care about abortions he just uses it for politics. He received cocktail to treat COVID that consists of stem cells. Believe he is totally unaware about content of the Bible.

 

[Yesitstrue]

He didn't even know about old testament vs. New testament.

 

[Yesitstrue]

How does that affect your thinking about the morality of aborting inconvenient children??

Or to put it another way, that's like arguing that in states where marijuana sales and use are legal, there are fewer arrests for possession.

Abortion is a medical procedure that removes an embryo from a uterus, according to Medline Plus. Furthermore, Medium stated that an embryo is not a human life, it is more or less a clump of cells

Those clump of cells treated Trumps COVID.

 

[Albion]

Planned Parenthood is so much more than just an abortion clinic. Planned Parenthood states that they grant service to 9.8 million people and provides STI testing, birth control, breast exams and sex education.

Of course Planned Parenthood is going to say that or something very much like it. . Don't believe everything that the organization says that makes it look more like a counseling service than it really is.

 

[Yesitstrue]

Of course Planned Parenthood is going to say that or something very much like it. . Don't believe everything that the organization says that makes it look more like a counseling service than it really is.

Data and facts. As opposed to Trump saying one thing and doing another. Social Security will be gone Under him inspite of what he has said.

 

[Albion]

Data and facts. As opposed to Trump saying one thing and doing another. Social Security will be gone Under him inspite of what he has said.

That's not only impossible, but there's nothing other than a Biden TV commercial that makes you think such a thing.

The ad says that the trust fund will run out of money in a couple of years and then says the program will collapse.

In reality, the trust fund has long been insolvent and what keeps the benefits coming is what will keep them coming after that date is reached. The government will both increase the payroll taxes and take more money from general revenues to supplement that...just as it has been doing for decades now.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Some Christians view him as practically the second coming of Christ, others view him as Satan incarnate. You won't get a universal answer.

Who thinks Trump is the second coming of Christ that is preposterous. I can’t imagine anyone believing such nonsense.

Edit: Ok I’m sorry I misread your post. I missed the word “practically”.

 

[jgarden]

What happens, as in other jurisdictions around the world, should Republicans be successful in repealing Roe v Wade, but American's young women decide that they're not prepared to surrender to the dictates of a few conservative, old, wealthy, predominantly "white," males in Washington?

Are Americans prepared to flood the prison population with young women whose crime against society was their refusal to proceed with a full term pregnancy - to comply with the demands of a conservative minority of Americans that will absolve themselves of all future responsibilities once that child is born!