What About You....... ARE YOU SURE?

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If we live its because we abide in the vine that brings life. If we abide in the vine we bear good fruit.

What do ya know I get to even you.

 

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Mt 7:12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Mt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Re 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the

Now that sure enough clouds the issue and breeds doubt and confusion.

 

[visionary]

"the righteous live by faith"

and in keeping the faith.. it shows in their life.. that they have the testimony of Yeshua and they also keep the commandments of God

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

and in keeping the faith.. it shows in their life.. that they have the testimony of Yeshua and they also keep the commandments of God

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

yeah . i had enough troubles from the law . it is the seed that brings sin and death and then the devil into someone's life .

God taught me a way more related to His heart and character .

 

[visionary]

yeah . i had enough troubles from the law . it is the seed that brings sin and death and then the devil into someone's life .

God taught me a way more related to His heart and character .

You can not know His heart or character unless you see Him in the prophets, the law, and the psalms as Yeshua said.

 

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"the righteous live by faith"

 

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The law im talking about is the law of Christ given by Him and His apostles and obeying it is not forsaking the Lord.

I don't think so at all. Sorry we have this disagrement.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

You can not know His heart or character unless you see Him in the prophets, the law, and the psalms as Yeshua said.

The law is a school teacher . but one cannot remain in school forever .

when you have a career . the relationship takes precedence .

and the scripture takes a secondary role .

if this is not your experience . that's fine . but don't be forcing other people to demature and stuff .

 

[11822]

I speak about grace and trusting God and you automatically begin speaking about the law . do you know it is written that you need to surpass the righteousness of the pharisees to actually enter the kingdom of heaven? how are you gonna accomplish that if you keep acting like them?

Saying that Gods will includes abstaining from fornication is acting like a pharisee? No its more like a Christian who is speaking about Gods will. I was talking about the law of love and Gods will for us. And i live by faith under Christs law.

 

[11822]

Now that sure enough clouds the issue and breeds doubt and confusion.

It only cast doubt about what you say but it highlights and affirms the teaching of Jesus and His apostles. Its about love. You're breeding confusion by saying that adultery is an obscure OT law that is not included in Gods will for us all.

 

[11822]

What do ya know I get to even you.

Finally. Thank you.

 

[11822]

I don't think so at all. Sorry we have this disagrement.

Abstaining from adultery, fornication and covetousness is not NC doctrine? Not stealing from or bearing false witness against our neighbor out of love is not NC doctrine? You must be confused.

 

[Harry3142]

Yes, I'm sure.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Saying that Gods will includes abstaining from fornication is acting like a pharisee? No its more like a Christian who is speaking about Gods will. I was talking about the law of love and Gods will for us. And i live by faith under Christs law.

The law of liberty is to love your neighbour as yourself and to not show favouritism based on outward distinctions . read James . it seems to speak to what you commonly express .

 

[11822]

The law of liberty is to love your neighbour as yourself and to not show favouritism based on outward distinctions . read James . it seems to speak to what you commonly express .

I never showed favouritism.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I never showed favouritism.

but you're missing the point . being under the law of liberty . means no longer being under the mosaic law .

the point is to judge with mercy

or your judgment will be without mercy .

that's what James was talking about .

 

[11822]

but you're missing the point . being under the law of liberty . means no longer being under the mosaic law .

the point is to judge with mercy

or your judgment will be without mercy .

that's what James was talking about .

What mosaic law? I only refer to the law given by Jesus and the apostles. Some of it just happens to come from mosaic law.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

What mosaic law? I only refer to the law given by Jesus and the apostles. Some of it just happens to come from mosaic law.

i think i'll just let you impale yourself with that sword .

besides you're totally off topic for this thread .

if being saved is about following a set of rules then Jesus died for nothing .

 

[11822]

i think i'll just let you impale yourself with that sword .

besides you're totally off topic for this thread .

if being saved is about following a set of rules then Jesus died for nothing .

I didn't bring it up and if you wasn't asking me questions or making comments about my posts i wouldn't need to reply to them. Am i not supposed to respond?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I didn't bring it up and if you wasn't asking me questions or making comments about my posts i wouldn't need to reply to them. Am i not supposed to respond?

well, you sure are a better lot than i've seen on here before with your attitude . so i can be thankful for that .