yod said:
I know I've shown you this at least 3 times...but I'll do it again because I like ya
Acts 15
5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses."
to which Kefa replies;
8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;
9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
Obviously, Kefa is not talking about circumcision here....that isn't any kind of "yoke" that is impossible for them or their fathers to bear.
Dan Juster explains it in much more depth at the Tikkun website
http://www.tikkunministries.org/articles/jack-whichlaw.htm
and by the way.....I don't think of Luther as a great man. His writings regarding the jews were the basis for the Inquisitions and the Third Reich.
And I love you too!
But, You can show me over and over but I still won't see what you see.
I know very well Acts 15, I have debated it with many for years.
Why I can't see what you see? is because you are seeing what you want to see and not what is there. You put your emphasis where you want it thus changing the meaning, to suit your standard of requirements, not HaShems.
I don't now nor will I in the future believe that there are two sets of laws for G-ds people. There is ONE G-D, ONE MESSAH, ONE FAITH, ONE WORD ONE HOPE, ONE KINGDOM, ONE LAW.
The laws never changed, the penaltys or payments for breaking them did, but not the laws themselves. For if that is so then G-d isn't really sovereign, nor Holy, for he would be wishy-washy, and change his mind and you could
never be sure if what you were doing was right.
Heaven forbid he should change his laws demarcating physics, can you imagine what would happen then? What if gravity only worked for some people?
Now, I will ask
you to read this again, with the proper emphasis.
5 But some of the sect of the Phariseeswho had believed stood up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses."
They were stating THEIR LAW of Conversion!
I am sure you are familiar with all Yeshua's run-ins with this group? And what was he always contending with them? What was true law and what was the law or
tradition of MEN.
The 'LAW OF MOSES' to them was BOTH the Written
AND the
ORAL! Yeshua did not see it that way, nor did his brother Ya'akov.
Also circumcising a man would be purposly inflicting pain by the cutting and the blood for the covenant would superceed that blood of Yeshua for the covenant would prove useless. His blood was indeed better. (That is not to say that when the gentiles became believers that when they had children that they would have a brit milah on the eighth day as per Torah. )
The circumcism of a convert was required by the
law of man, the pharasses required this, but not HaShem, he did not required that for them ( new pagen converts) to become part of his kingdom. Just follow the laws as laid down by Yeshua on Mt Sinai and no worry about the laws pertaining to the priests, for now there was a permenant High Priest, forevermore!
Yes, the fruits of Martin Luther stink to High Heaven, literally still!