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There was a discussion on another thread concerning Armageddon and Gog Magog.
I decided to add a poll thread to better view member's views on those events.
You have the option to vote on 2 of the choices and to change your vote/s.
If you would like more options, please let me know.
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Here is the link to a few of the posts from the other thread, where a few members view the Gog Magog war as occurring first..
I do not find that view plausible or scriptural, and is actually the first I have heard of it on CF.
Please vote if you respond to the thread.
I will be going in depth with this using the Greek and Hebrew and verses from both the OT and NT to harmonize those 2 events.
Walk through if I have it wrong, Ezekiel 38-39
Ezekiel 38:
“Son of adam.
Place! faces of thee to Gog, land of the Magog, price of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal and prophecy against him.
, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh,[fn] Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Revelation 20:8
and he shall be coming out to deceive the nations, the ones in the Four Corners of the land, the Gog and the Magog,
to be together-leading/mobilizing/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle, of which the Number of them as the Sand<285> of the Se<2281>a.[Ezekiel 7:1-2]
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And the battle of Armageddon
Revelation 16:
14 For they are spirits of demons doing signs, which are going-out upon the kings of the whole home-land<3625>,
to-be-together-leading/mobilizing/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of the great Day of the God the Almighty.
16 And they together-leading/mobilize/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Place, the being called to Hebrew Armageddwn<717>
.
I decided to add a poll thread to better view member's views on those events.
You have the option to vote on 2 of the choices and to change your vote/s.
If you would like more options, please let me know.
=================================
Here is the link to a few of the posts from the other thread, where a few members view the Gog Magog war as occurring first..
I do not find that view plausible or scriptural, and is actually the first I have heard of it on CF.
Please vote if you respond to the thread.
I will be going in depth with this using the Greek and Hebrew and verses from both the OT and NT to harmonize those 2 events.
Walk through if I have it wrong, Ezekiel 38-39
Here the verses that contains Gog Magog:Following the text of Ezekiel 38-39, walk me through the text of why I have it wrong. And why you may think this is part or all history.
Here is what I say, to happen during your lifetime...
Gog/Magog takes place - Ezekiel 38
Gog's army is destroyed - Ezekiel 39:4
Then Armageddon - Ezekiel 39:17-20
Jesus returned to earth - Ezekiel 39:21-29.We need to take into account of the destruction of Judea and the wholesale slaughter of its people by the Romans in AD 70.Ezekiel 39:17
Do you not realize that the above is connected with the destruction of Gog and his multitude?
Do you not see in verse 4 this?---Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel. And in verse 17 this?---even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel
Just because Ezekiel 39:17-20 comes after we already see Gog and his multitude dead and buried, that doesn't mean Ezekiel 39:17-20 chronologically follow after the burying of Gog and his multitude then, as if Ezekiel 39:17-20 are speaking of different events altogether that occur sometime years later after Gog had already been destroyed some years earlier.Do you think the weapons listed below will be used on the modern battlefield?
Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears,Do you use the same logic for Revelation 19 as well, since it too depicts an ancient war scene, yet involves the 2nd coming? It mentions horses in Revelation 19. Do you think they are all going to be on horseback then, when Jesus and his armies confront the beast and it's armies? Of course you don't. And if those horses don't have to be literal horses, which we both agree they are not, why do you think the weapons in Ezekiel 39 have to actually be literal ancient weapons then?Armageddon is not mentioned in ezekiel 38 or 39.
Jesus coming is not mentioned in Ezekiel,38 or 39 unless your rewriting ezekiel for ezekiel.
If you are rewriting Ezekiel 39-39 then you will need to add the words armegedon and Jesus.Birds are always eating dead bodies.Thats what birds do.Every war someone being eaten on.
Where do it say that war is Armegeddon? Where is the beast mentioned?Whete is the false prophet?
Jesus teaches the war of Armegeddon comes before Gog invades Israel. You say its the opposit.
According to you Jesus is wrong.Jesus teaches the war of Armegeddon is before the invasion of Gog.
Why are you saying the opposite of Jesus? Are you somehow trying to prove Jesus wrong by your understanding?Ezekiel 38-39 does not say anything about the coming of Christ or the war of Armegedon.
How can I give you a walk through of events that dont exist in Ezekiel 38-39?
Revelation does have both Armeggedon and the invasion of Gog.
Now the question. Why do you teach the opposite of what Jesus teaches?Who side are you on?The war of Armeggedon and the coming of Christ is not in Ezekiel 38-39. You cant teach something that is not there.
You have been,teaching that Gog will invade Israel before the war of Armeggedon.
Jesus teaches that the war of Armeggedon comes 1000 years before Gog invades Israel.
Why do you oppose the words of Jesus?Ezekiel 38-39 is about the invasion of Israrl by Gog.Thats all it is.
No Armeggedon and no coming of Jesus.You never answerd my question.
Jesus teaches the war of Armeggedon is 1000 years before Gog invades Israel .
You teach God invades Israel before the war of Armeggedon.
Why do you teach the opposite of Jesus?What do you have against his order?Douggg said: ↑Give me something like this.
Israel will be living at rest and safely before Gog/Magog takes place, Ezekiel 38:8-11
Gog/Magog takes place - Ezekiel 38
Then Armageddon - Ezekiel 39:17-20
Jesus returned to earth - Ezekiel 39:21-29.keras said: ↑
The Biblical story, not overlaid with preconceived ideas:
Gog invades the holy Land, not long recovered from being burned over and depopulated by the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath; the Sixth Seal event, many years before the glorious Return Armageddon.
Ezekiel 38:
“Son of adam.
Place! faces of thee to Gog, land of the Magog, price of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal and prophecy against him.
, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh,[fn] Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Revelation 20:8
and he shall be coming out to deceive the nations, the ones in the Four Corners of the land, the Gog and the Magog,
to be together-leading/mobilizing/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle, of which the Number of them as the Sand<285> of the Se<2281>a.[Ezekiel 7:1-2]
=============================================
And the battle of Armageddon
Revelation 16:
14 For they are spirits of demons doing signs, which are going-out upon the kings of the whole home-land<3625>,
to-be-together-leading/mobilizing/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of the great Day of the God the Almighty.
16 And they together-leading/mobilize/sunagagein <4863> (5629) them into the Place, the being called to Hebrew Armageddwn<717>
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