Were there any good nazis?

[wildthing]

Let me surf the web we might be talking about the same car. Polo whats that?? Just checked a UK site what do you have a Hatchback or a sedan? Mine was a hatch back it was the GTI model. Which meant that it had sport tuned suspension plus it was lowered a bit and had more powerful motor. It handled like a go cart and was loads of fun to drive. but we need to stick to the subject of "Good Nazis"

 

[oldrooster]

Rudolph Hess, he flew to Britian to stop the war.....

 

[Key Peninsula Redneck]

Sure, they were all good in their eyes, just they are bad for us. They gave us the Manhattan project, rocket engineers, Einstein, and the Volkswagen.

Slugabug!

 

[TrueQ]

Yeah, sure there were good nazis, there are great, friendly people in every belief system, it's just the matter of meeting in bars. Rather than the nasty, hostile ones that are also in every system.

 

[kurabrhm]

Let me surf the web we might be talking about the same car. Polo whats that?? Just checked a UK site what do you have a Hatchback or a sedan? Mine was a hatch back it was the GTI model. Which meant that it had sport tuned suspension plus it was lowered a bit and had more powerful motor. It handled like a go cart and was loads of fun to drive. but we need to stick to the subject of "Good Nazis"

mine's a nice little hatchback.

 

[oldrooster]

There were those in the resistance as well...

 

[kurabrhm]

There were those in the resistance as well...

Surely at least now its time to realise that Germany is one of Europe's best hopes for a great renewal which indeed is occuring now. The Nazi history will always taint that nation residing in middle Europe but the fact is if anyone is a supporter of Winston Churchill who, along with FDR, saved the world back in the 1940's, then they must also support Churchill's hopes* that both Germany and France would head Europe's renewal.

* source: Roy Jenkins enormous biography of Churchill.

 

[jayem]

Wehrmach General von Choltitz, who was the German commander in Paris, surrendered the city to the Allies, rather than obey Hitler's orders to burn Paris to the ground. I don't know if this makes him "good", but at least it was the more civilized thing to do.

 

[Antari]

You must keep in mind that people only do things when they thing they're right, otherwise, they do it hesitantly. Every Nazi in the war, unless having second thoughts, thought that the genocide was justified. They were not guilty in their mind, though they were in ours, and were in God's eyes. So, to define a "good" Nazi is a difficult thing, as among themselves, they were all good. All evil people usually think their evil isn't evil, or justified evil, which doesn't exist.

 

[Moros]

Werner von Braun.

 

[Thursday]

You must keep in mind that people only do things when they thing they're right, otherwise, they do it hesitantly. Every Nazi in the war, unless having second thoughts, thought that the genocide was justified. They were not guilty in their mind, though they were in ours, and were in God's eyes. So, to define a "good" Nazi is a difficult thing, as among themselves, they were all good. All evil people usually think their evil isn't evil, or justified evil, which doesn't exist.

Good point.

 

[Viola_Strange]

I know a number of former Nazi officers... they seem like decent people to me, with one exception.

ooh, tell me more! PM me with details!

 

[Andy Broadley]

An important point to remember here is that the majority of the German military were not Nazi's and did not support the Nazi party. The Nazi element was mainly the SS. The Wermacht (Army) were regular soldiers. The wermacht high command and Prussion officer corps were opposed to Hitler because they resented being given orders by someone who had, after all, only reached the rank of corporal.

During the war there were around 17 attempts on Hitlers life, many of them by the Army.

So any debate about 'good' Nazi officers needs to look mainly within the ranks of the SS. One name which springs to mind is that of Brigadenfuhrer Walter Shellenberg. Although a high ranking member of the party, SS and the intelligence service he was never a supporter of Hitler. This is evidenced by the fact that, following his trial at Nuremberg, he only served 5 years in prison.

Another prime candidate would be Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of the Abwehr (intelligence). He was consistently opposed to Hitler. He was eventually killed by the SS in Flossenberg concentration camp in April 1945.