Were the angels lying?

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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

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1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?
 

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Were the angels lying?
"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?

Of course the angels were not lying. If they were sinful or sinned they would've been cast down just like Satan was, and all his angels.

And it WAS good news.

God's grace extended to ALL who had ears to hear, and accepted His grace, and repented.

This IS good news, is it not?
 
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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?
1. No
2. Yes
3. All who will accept the saviour. It was not restricted to the Jews, as they expected the Messiah to deliver only them. As many still do.
 
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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?
No they weren't lying. They were proclaiming the GOOD NEWS of the GOSPEL!
That The lamb of GOD , the Savior was born to the world, & all who repent of their sins & would believe with Faith in JESUS CHRIST the Son of God who came to pay the debt for our sin will be saved from the wrath of God.
 
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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?


Technically, it's not lying.

The message was indeed announced to everyone eventually, only some took some 2,000 years for them to hear the message :D
 
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Technically, it's not lying.

The message was indeed announced to everyone eventually, only some took some 2,000 years for them to hear the message :D

:scratch:

The angels "sorta' " lied?

See posts #3 and #6.
 
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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?


1. Were the angels lying? No

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

Sure, it's talking about the birth of Jesus, and our Savior who would make salvation available to all

3. What does all mean? Explained in #2
 
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No, it was for all people... some just refuse to accept it.


Yes. Matthew 28:19


All means all.

Dear I.M. So the entire mega joy which "shall be" for all people must be accepted. When?

Every knee, every tongue, every dimension of the heavens, the earth & the underworld
 
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inquiring mind said:
No, it was for all people... some just refuse to accept it.


Yes. Matthew 28:19


All means all.
Dear I.M. So the entire mega joy which "shall be" for all people must be accepted. When?

Every knee, every tongue, every dimension of the heavens, the earth & the underworld

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The verse about every knee bowing is true. All, even Satan and his angels and the unrepentant, WILL be compelled to bow their knee to speak the truth on WHO Jesus the Christ is. It is not because they are loving Jesus or adoring Him, but because they will be compelled to speak the truth whether they want to or not, in the midst of their condemnation. They will be declaring WHO they have rejected, and slandered, and lied about, and thus stating why they are thus condemned and sentenced to the lake of fire for all of eternity.
 
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The message of the Gospel is offered to all but "all" does not mean that "all" will be saved, that is Universalism.
"all" does not mean that "all" will be saved, that is Universalism.
Exactly.
 
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No, it was for all people... some just refuse to accept it.

God's grace extended to ALL who had ears to hear, and accepted

All who will accept the

The message of the Gospel is offered to all but "all" does not mean that "all" will be saved,

Since the gifts and blessings of God need to be accepted.....do you also believe that the punishment and curses of God needs to be accepted before you can receive them as well? If not....why do you think God made His gifts optional, but His punishment mandatory?
 
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1. No
2. Yes
3. All who will accept the saviour. It was not restricted to the Jews, as they expected the Messiah to deliver only them. As many still do.

Dear Aussie: #1 correct>>>#2 correct

#3

Why did the angels not make clear the megas joy for the pas of God's kindness of glad tidings was based on acceptance?
 
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Universalism is not taught in the Bible.
Yes the term Universal ism was not used in the bible or in the OP.... so Why do you keep using it in your Posts? Are you able to make your points without referring to terms and doctrines not used in the bible?
 
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"The angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."

Fear not= phobeō mē

Glad tidings = euaggelizō

Great = megas

Joy = chara

Shall be = esomai

To all people = pas laos

The angel said, “Don’t be afraid. I’m here to announce a great and joyful event that is meant for everybody, worldwide: A Savior has just been born in David’s town, a Savior who is Messiah and Master.

Questions

1. Were the angels lying?

2. Is the mega joy announced truly for all people?

3. What does all mean?
It's for all who receive him, and believe in his name. John 1:12
 
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Since the gifts and blessings of God need to be accepted.....do you also believe that the punishment and curses of God needs to be accepted before you can receive them as well? If not....why do you think God made His gifts optional, but His punishment mandatory?

:scratch:
 
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