PeaceByJesus
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Meaning besides condemning those who condemn, which is duplicity, are you now resorting to blatant false hood! Where have I ever expressed that Jesus didn’t save people while they were yet sinners? Instead I clearly stated that not only are we all sinners but included many Scripture texts showing that Christians are, but which does not necessarily mean they cannot condemn the sins of others, as commanded! Do you dare even read such? Or shall I provide them again and more for all to see how the great reprover of being reproved has been reproved again? This thread is a record of your duplicity and false teaching.Zero Duplicity here...
Jesus came for the sick... not the well... Jesus died for us, while we were yet sinners...
I admit that apart from Christ’s gift of Slavic Covering... I fail.
I think it’s wrong to lie to people and project that Christians don’t fail... and that being a Christian is about your own flesh... when James makes it clear... along with others... that’s it’s about Loving Others as they are and ensuring they have Love, and support...
No preference!
You are ranking sin and crying that Jesus didn’t save people (While they were yet sinners).
Rather, that is LYING, since I never required sinlessness from others, which is actually your fallacious premise, which is that unless you are sinless/perfect then you cannot sit in judgment/condemn/reprove others - unless it is you doing so - which false premise I corrected multiple times, from Scripture, only to have you resort to a fat bowl of LYING contrary to what I said! Such as,Duplicity?
How about the fact that you have Sin (Or you make Him a liar)... and you ask for sinlessness from others...? Now that’s a fat bowel of Duplicity Soup!
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"...the latter are exhorted to rebuke error and works of darkness, and can do so while yet being less than perfect, unless they are impenitently practicing what they reprove."
In the light of your posts I can see why some have surmised there are posters here whose main function is to act as provocateurs in order to get page counts up. At least you served to do that.
Thus those who impenitently live contrary to this evidence they are not believers. (2 Corinthians 12:29; 13:5)
Thus those who impenitently live contrary to this evidence they are not believers. (2 Corinthians 12:29; 13:5)1 John 1:8 and James 2:10 are all I need to see through your demand that carnal perfection is a requirement.
No, carnal perfection is not a requirement, but saving faith is, and which again is that which characteristically follows the Lord (John 10:27,28; 1 John 3:3-10; Romans 6:20-22; Hebrews 6:9) including repentance when convicted of disobedience. (2 Corinthians 7:9-11; cf. James 4:17) - Weaponized Gospel"...the latter are exhorted to rebuke error and works of darkness, and can do so while yet being less than perfect, unless they are impenitently practicing what they reprove."
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:10-11)
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)
One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; (Titus 1:12-13)
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:2)
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (Revelation 2:2)
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (Titus 3:10-11)
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17)
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For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)
One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; (Titus 1:12-13)
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:2)
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (Revelation 2:2)
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (Titus 3:10-11)
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17)
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Thus those who impenitently live contrary to this evidence they are not believers. (2 Corinthians 12:29; 13:5)
Which falsity has already been refuted, showing that Christians are called sinners yet are also called to judge impenitent sinners, condemn heretics (like you), and can do so while yet being less than perfect, unless they are impenitently practicing what they reprove.
We are all “hypocrites” in one way or another... but you’ve gone full blown self righteous!
And that rather than saying everyone is guilty of breaking every one of the over 600 laws in the OT, what James is saying is that transgression in one point renders one a law breaker just like all the rest. Thus God judge persons based only on what each did, as distinguished from what they did not actually do, and which distinction James also makes, but that one is still law breaker just as all are. (James 2:10,11)
Thus we cannot condemn others simply being sinners, but are to call ourselves as well as others to repentance, and censor, condemn, reprove and those who will not, from clearly serious false teaching to willful immortality.
- A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; (Titus 3:10)
- Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17)
- Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. (2 Thessalonians 3:6)
- If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: (2 John 10)
- For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)
- This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; (Titus 1:13)
- Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:2)
- And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:11)
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