@brinny yes, I think that is exactly what it says.
Here is why....
Ok, I understand. But, God created Satan, and put him here with us to tempt us...how is it worth it for God to tempt us, to have many lead astray and end up in hell? How can God be ok with all those precious souls spending eternity in hell? Wouldn't God feel the pain of this for all of eternity?@brinny yes, I think that is exactly what it says.
The Feasts have a historical connection but each and every one of them also points to various aspects of Yeshua's work. Since his work was centered on reversing Adam's curse (and much more) then we see that God had this planned out before Adam was even created. See, on the 4th day the sun, moon, and stars were placed in the heavens for signs and seasons, and for days and years. The word for "seasons" is moedim... which is the word we would translate as "feasts" or "appointed times." My point, is that the things which marked the days that would point to Messiah's work, were set in place before there was a need for a messiah.
A second witness to that would be Rev. 13:8 which speaks of "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world." That means, at least in the mind of God, a sacrifice before there was a sin.
So why Restless Heart, would God go to such lengths? I really believe it is as simple as this.... He could have created us to have no choice, to be like robots just programmed to do His will. But what He wanted was a people who could choose between good and evil, holiness and sin, righteousness and unrighteousness... and the ones that would chose the former in each example I just gave, are doing so out of LOVE for God because the latter in each example is actually a more satisfying (to the flesh) temporary choice. Meaning, it is very enticing to choose the world, money, power, fame... and have everyone just love you for YOUR greatness. But that will end... and those who made the other choice were not as well known in this world but become royalty in the next. And why? Because in spite of the enticement the world can throw at us... we chose God and His ways out of our love for Him.
Thus, in the end, God ends up able to be surrounded with those who gave up for Him, who wanted to love Him above all else... and again, they will be rewarded for that. Not like the rewards of this world, but they will be rewarded.
@brinny yes, I think that is exactly what it says.
The Feasts have a historical connection but each and every one of them also points to various aspects of Yeshua's work. Since his work was centered on reversing Adam's curse (and much more) then we see that God had this planned out before Adam was even created. See, on the 4th day the sun, moon, and stars were placed in the heavens for signs and seasons, and for days and years. The word for "seasons" is moedim... which is the word we would translate as "feasts" or "appointed times." My point, is that the things which marked the days that would point to Messiah's work, were set in place before there was a need for a messiah.
A second witness to that would be Rev. 13:8 which speaks of "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world." That means, at least in the mind of God, a sacrifice before there was a sin.
So why Restless Heart, would God go to such lengths? I really believe it is as simple as this.... He could have created us to have no choice, to be like robots just programmed to do His will. But what He wanted was a people who could choose between good and evil, holiness and sin, righteousness and unrighteousness... and the ones that would chose the former in each example I just gave, are doing so out of LOVE for God because the latter in each example is actually a more satisfying (to the flesh) temporary choice. Meaning, it is very enticing to choose the world, money, power, fame... and have everyone just love you for YOUR greatness. But that will end... and those who made the other choice were not as well known in this world but become royalty in the next. And why? Because in spite of the enticement the world can throw at us... we chose God and His ways out of our love for Him.
Thus, in the end, God ends up able to be surrounded with those who gave up for Him, who wanted to love Him above all else... and again, they will be rewarded for that. Not like the rewards of this world, but they will be rewarded.
Perhaps our view of hell is inconsistent with the bible's view from start to finish? I am not saying it is... I am saying that if the character traits of the Spirit of God are love, peace, joy, patience, long suffering, kindness, goodness and self control... then does it stand in harmony or opposition to those traits to have that same being torture somebody for eternity for not making the right decision while in a fallen state for the 70, 80, 90+/- years that they lived?
And that is why there is no redemption for him. Only Adam existed in a perfect state (we have not, yet) but Adam had a tempter. Satan was perfect (without blemish) and had no tempter... therefore, what he did was rebellion and that means he KNEW what God wanted and chose the opposite. Adam knew but was deceived... still sin, still bad... but not rebellion.
