We have 10 years to save Earth's biodiversity as mass extinction caused by humans takes hold, UN war

[Robban]

Criminal, yes. What would you call behaviour that jeopardizes human and animal life.

In any event, the issue is not, in my opinion, whether Jesus will return but when - it is irresponsible to abandon our Biblically mandated responsibility to care for God’s creation just because we believe that Jesus is returning. Will He not be righteously ticked if, in the meantime, humans and animals suffer needlessly?

What is your plan of action?

We all have to make a living,

so what happens, down tools?

 

[renniks]

Yeah yeah I heard all before. These doomsday prophets keep getting more ridiculous.

 

[Nithavela]

Has nothing to do with testing anyone, I simply believe what the bible said it would be like i the end. What do you think I'm going do to test him?

You're doing the same thing Jesus refused to do in the desert: take a plunge in the belief that you'll be caught.

 

[Kenny'sID]

You're doing the same thing Jesus refused to do in the desert: take a plunge in the belief that you'll be caught.

What plunge?

 

[Goonie]

Yeah yeah I heard all before. These doomsday prophets keep getting more ridiculous.

Except they are not doomsday prophets, but scientists making predictions based on actual data.

 

[Nithavela]

What plunge?

Read the bible, I'm sure you'll figure it out.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Read the bible, I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Lovely.

IOW you know you had no good point to begin with and now you're going to cop out with that? lol

 

[Nithavela]

Lovely.

IOW you know you had no good point to begin with and now you're going to cop out with that? lol

I know, how dare I suggest a christian read the bible.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I know, how dare I suggest a christian read the bible.

What?

Please, stop it, I hate entertainment at the expense of others.

 

[renniks]

Except they are not doomsday prophets, but scientists making predictions based on actual data.

Scientist doomsday prophets of the worst kind. They always get it wrong.

 

[Goonie]

Scientist doomsday prophets of the worst kind. They always get it wrong.

Except that it is an observed fact that biodiversity is being destroyed at an unprecedented rate from the rainforests, oceanlife to the mass death of bee colonies,


They are not doomsday prophets. Please stop knowingly and deliberately lying.

 

[Nithavela]

Except that it is an observed fact that biodiversity is being destroyed at an unprecedented rate from the rainforests, oceanlife to the mass death of bee colonies,


They are not doomsday prophets. Please stop knowingly and deliberately lying.

I've read one guy stating that the apocalypse has been announced so often that now, it holds no more threat even when there is proof.

Mankind has cried wolf itself into destruction.

 

[Robban]

What makes this generation more wicked than generations that have gone before?

Seeing as it is predicted we have ten years.

Wondering if the concept is well thought through.

There are plenty of a la Gretas, burdening mankind with guilt.

What is the average Joe supposed to do about it?

 

[renniks]

Except that it is an observed fact that biodiversity is being destroyed at an unprecedented rate from the rainforests, oceanlife to the mass death of bee colonies,


They are not doomsday prophets. Please stop knowingly and deliberately lying.

They've been wrong plenty of times before. Scientists are far from infallible. Anyway, why worry? What good would that do?

 

[d taylor]

I am for recycling what can be recycled: glass, metal, paper, and i guess plastic since it is going to be around.

Then burning the rest, get rid of landfills.

 

[expos4ever]

Puny man has no power to destroy earth,.....

The facts indicate otherwise. It is clear beyond reason that mankind does indeed have the power to destroy the earth - not obliterate the planet, of course, but basically kill billions of people with nuclear weapons.

There is an ominous issue bubbling just under the surface of this thread - how a fundamentalist thinking can insidiously distort thinking. And so we get things like this:

- the world is 6000 years old;
- we should not attempt to legally depose President Trump because "God put him in power";
- climate change is a massive hoax.
- and so on.

I am sure the people who hold these untenable positions did not wake up one morning and decide to believe irrational things - it is clearly a slow process and no doubt the people who believe these things genuinely believe they are in the right.

 

[Norbert L]

Time tables are soooooo accurate........

I believe environmentalism is new to "the end is nigh" warning. The downside of cataclysm talk is when these things don't accurately happen it soons becomes the story of the boy who cried wolf and when the wolf finally does come people won't see him coming.

 

[expos4ever]

Recklessly?

What do you think calling a description of what is clearly the return of Christ/second coming,....

The point is that it is NOT clearly a description of Christ's second coming.

Consider this text from Daniel which was well known to Jesus' contemporaries:


“I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, with the clouds of heaven
One like a Son of Man was coming,
And He came up to the Ancient of Days
And was presented before Him.
14 “And to Him was given dominion,
Glory and [k]a kingdom,
That all the peoples, nations and men of every [l]language
Might serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion
Which will not pass away;
And His kingdom is one
Which will not be destroyed.

Is the "coming" of the Son of Man (clearly Jesus) a downward return, as in the second coming?

No. It is an upward ascent of vindication after defeating the beasts - clearly descriptive of Jesus' victory at the cross and attendant installation as Lord of all creation.

So, as we see, there is a powerful argument that texts that refer to Jesus's "coming" may refer to his coming up to heaven after His victory at the cross - something that has already happened - and not a downward "second coming".

 

[Kenny'sID]

The point is that it is NOT clearly a description of Christ's second coming.

Consider this text from Daniel which was well known to Jesus' contemporaries:


“I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, with the clouds of heaven
One like a Son of Man was coming,
And He came up to the Ancient of Days
And was presented before Him.
14 “And to Him was given dominion,
Glory and [k]a kingdom,
That all the peoples, nations and men of every [l]language
Might serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion
Which will not pass away;
And His kingdom is one
Which will not be destroyed.

Is the "coming" of the Son of Man (clearly Jesus) a downward return, as in the second coming?

No. It is an upward ascent of vindication after defeating the beasts - clearly descriptive of Jesus' victory at the cross and attendant installation as Lord of all creation.

So, as we see, there is a powerful argument that texts that refer to Jesus's "coming" may refer to his coming up to heaven after His victory at the cross - something that has already happened - and not a downward "second coming".

You can sit there with a straight face and actually tell me you believe the world we now live in is actually run by Christ?

Was it this thread were I mentioned using a little common sense, so between that and the fact most Christians believe Christ has yet to come and for a good reason, IO seriously doubt yours is the case.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Someone cited Matthew 24 in support of the belief that Jesus is coming to fix things.

This is precisely what I meant when, in an earlier post, I referred to “dubious interpretations”. As do some scholars of high repute, I believe that this text refers to something that has already happened in the first century. I can explain, if requested.

If this is so, then those who are willing to abdicate the otherwise clear Biblical mandate to care for the planet in the hope that Jesus is coming soon have made a huge mistake with devastating global consequences.

All because they misinterpreted a particular chunk of verses.

What’s worse, I pretty much guarantee that they will not even consider the possibility they are mistaken - another hurtful consequence of the fundamentalist mindset.

21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. Matthew 24:21
Hmmm, you'd think there would at least be a footnote in the history books about that: "distress.....never to be equaled again." Nope, can't find it anywhere in the history books.