We cannot be saved in Christ if we did not sin in Adam.
What do you think? Is this a true statement?
What do you think? Is this a true statement?
I think that would be the logical progression of thought, no sin in the garden no need for salvation..is this a trick question?
We cannot be saved in Christ if we did not sin in Adam.
What do you think?
We cannot be saved in Christ if we did not sin in Adam.
What do you think? Is this a true statement?
I think you are trying to take a pot shot at the theory of evolution, but no amount of wishing it were untrue will make it so.
Proverbs 3.5-7 Living with a paradox.
Not quite. God works through means and has set up a means by which sinners are saved in Christ in a particular way and no other. Certainly God is wise and powerful enough to do whatever He intends to do but He has put in place a system of righteousness and justice that demands that sinners be saved only in a certain way. Add the fact that you didn't really give the full quote that pertains to your objection. I said we cannot be saved in Christ. Therefore your objection is without merit. I hope that came out as lovingly as it was intended to be.Let's break it down a bit.
"We cannot be saved..." Through God, all things are possible so that phrase makes the statement false.
Actually there would have been no need of Jesus if Adam hadn't sinned. Now to properly understand the statement we must begin at who Adam was. He was the first man created in innocence. All other humans, with the exception of Christ Jesus the Lord, came from his loins. He is the federal head and representative of all that come from him. When he sinned we all sinned in him. We all became guilty before God by the on sin of Adam. Death passed on us all because of his one sin. Rom. 5:12-19. The reason that we cannot be saved in Christ unless we sinned in Adam is that we are saved in the same way that we are damned in Adam. The Lord Jesus Christ is our Representative Head, or Federal Head as it is known, and just as the sin of Adam was imputed to all his seed as though we had done it ourselves the righteousness of Christ is imputed to all His seed by spiritual generation. We are saved by One the same way we were damned by one. If any deny the sin of Adam being imputed to us they must also deny the righteousness of Christ being imputed to us."if we did not sin in Adam" Would we even exist if Adam had not sinned? If he had not sinned, "human" would be fundamentally different than what we are today. Without Adam's sin, we would be living in full communion with God right now (assuming that no one else ever tried to eat from the tree after Adam). Sitting at the feet of God, or listening to the teachings of Jesus would be our default condition without Adam's sin. Adam was our Prometheus. He gave us the ability to make the world a messy place where we could break things and fix things on our own. God gave us the Old Covenant and the New Covenant to keep us on track so we could progress to our destiny of returning to him one day. Jesus gives us the means to make that destiny happen since we cannot do it on our own.
I am talking about Federal Headship. Here is a link that puts it is simple language:Federal Headship | Federal Headship is a Biblical Concept | Christian Apologetics and Research MinistryI agree that there would be no need for Jesus if Adam hadn't sinned, my point exactly. The rest is circular and comes back to that basic hypothetical point.
I'm missing something cause I know how devout of a theologian you are.
We cannot be saved in Christ if we did not sin in Adam.
What do you think? Is this a true statement?
Actually there would have been no need of Jesus if Adam hadn't sinned. Now to properly understand the statement we must begin at who Adam was. He was the first man created in innocence. All other humans, with the exception of Christ Jesus the Lord, came from his loins. He is the federal head and representative of all that come from him. When he sinned we all sinned in him. We all became guilty before God by the on sin of Adam. Death passed on us all because of his one sin. Rom. 5:12-19. The reason that we cannot be saved in Christ unless we sinned in Adam is that we are saved in the same way that we are damned in Adam. The Lord Jesus Christ is our Representative Head, or Federal Head as it is known, and just as the sin of Adam was imputed to all his seed as though we had done it ourselves the righteousness of Christ is imputed to all His seed by spiritual generation. We are saved by One the same way we were damned by one. If any deny the sin of Adam being imputed to us they must also deny the righteousness of Christ being imputed to us.