Wavering faith; beginning to doubt God, Jesus, necessity of salvation

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What made you open this thread? Concern for someone who MIGHT be "wavering"? Or do you IDENTIFY with the idea of "wavering"?

Are you having doubts?

If you think that NO Christian has doubts, you're wrong. Eveyone does. There are times when the most "Spirit-filled godly evangelist" awakens wondering, "Is it all real?"

In the book, "A Celebration of Discipline" (Richard Foster), under "Solitude" is a topic "dark night of the soul". It is a time of spiritual dryness; Scripture does not excite, church does not attract; God feels distant. He says, "rather than to be FEARED, it is to be WELCOMED. It brings a sense of quiet to one's soul; a time to sit in silence, and reflect. A time to wait on God.

Each of us comes to God in our own way; for me, my scientific mind had to understand the physics, the science. I assure you Christianity IS scientific, magnitudes more than atheistic Humanism. History supports us; there has never been an archeological conflict with Scripture. Jesus WAS. Jesus SPOKE certain things; and in a legal sense, we can BELIEVE that what Scripture records, is ACCURATE.

Sometimes we need to remind ourselves of the FACTS, that the Bible makes certain bold assertions; WAS there an "Ark"? Apparently, there was. WAS there a place called Jerico? Fully documented and proven. WAS there a man called "Jesus"? According to all the records and history we have, YES. Scripture itself presents a spectacular credibility; 25,000 copies surviving time, many datable to within 50 years of Christ. Do you believe in George Washington? Why? You have NO different evidence fhat HE existed, than you do Jesus. What about Moses? Shakespeer?

In a legal sense, what is recorded of Jesus' words, is accurate. The "testimony of the witnesses", but at the time OF the writing, and the next few years. Had it NOT been credible, it would have been OVERTURNED. Jesus said He was God; and He said He was the only way. Per C.S.Lewis, Jesus either WAS what he said, or was NOT --- and was a LIAR (knew He wasn't and lied), or was not and was a LUNATIC (didn't know He wasn't God).

Was Jesus raised from the dead? Scripture said that He appeared to THOUSANDS. There is no way such an assertion would have survived, had it not happened. The Disciples were, basically, cowards. There is no motivation for them to have pulled off the "greatest con of all time" --- pretending Jesus was resurrected. Something HAPPENED to them --- suddenly they had TONS of courage.

And that perspective is ONLY compatible with a "true, risen Savior".

Do you doubt? Welcome to being Human. What do you DO with your doubting? Doubt can either RUIN us (if allowed to grow), or it can STRENGTH us --- as it drives us to our knees before Him. What do you do about your doubting? What do you do about your CHRISTIANITY?

What is Christianity? What does it mean to be saved? What ONE WORD completely describes "salvation", "born-again", "Christian", everything that Jesus was about? Imagine putting the ENTIRE BIBLE into a saucepan, turning the unit up on "HIGH", and boiling it and boiling it all the way down to ONE WORD. Do you know what that word is?

Most don't....
 

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"Belief"! That's salvation!

Well, no it's not.

"Faith?"

"Faith", is "belief"; not it. In James 2:19, the demons believe and shudder; not enough.


"OBEDIENCE?"

No. Faith, belief, obedience --- these are all part OF salvation, but there's something BENEATH them, a foundation on which they REST. What is it?

"LOVE?"


That's a great answer; but it's not complete. Love DOES found faith/belief/obedience --- but what is it ABOUT love that conveys salvation? What's the structure, the substance, the framework?
 
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The ANSWER to "what one word conveys the essence of salvation", is the same answer that will solve your "doubts".

Salvation --- Jesus' Gospel, the idea of "Born Again", eternity --- all exist in one word. Salvation is....


...FELLOWSHIP with God.

It is a true indwelt fellowship of love, COMMUNION between God and man. As such, you cannot HAVE fellowhsip with anyone, unless you spend TIME with that person!

Fellowship with God. What does that mean?

It means PRAYER.

First --- foremost --- there is the prayer of praise and worship. God craves worship; He inhabits it. When we worship Him, He inhabits US. He is worthy of praise! He is wonderful, absolute perfection! He is just, He is love! Praise Him before the nations, praise Him forever!

Second --- repentance. God promises to forgive our sins; then He does something REALLY amazing --- He forgets we ever SINNED. "I will remember their sins no more." Heb8:12

Third --- thanksgiving. Unthankfulness is arguably the ROOT of sin. What do you have, that was not given you by God? You were born naked, you will die that way too. You own NOTHING. All you have, is a BLESSING. You cannot be a Christian unless you are humble (Matt18:3-4); and it is impossible to be anything BUT humble, if you are truly thankful.

Fourth --- Intercession. The opposite of "Christian", is "selfish"; when we are praying our hearts out for others, for their physical needs and healing, for their spiritual needs --- it is IMPOSSIBLE to be anything but "unselfish".

Fifth --- fellowship. Do you know that as you delight in His presence, HE delights in YOURS? He really enjoys your company. His thoughts of you number more than the sand. One of the most important events of Christianity, is the "tearing of the veil" the instant Jesus died. Do you know what that means? Your soul was stained black and rotten. But Jesus' blood has washed you whiter than snow. Now --- through the One Mediator Jesus, you are invited behind the veil, into the very throne-room of God. Why? Fellowship with Him!

Sixth --- waiting on Him. Sometimes if we just still our overactive mouths, and wait in His presence for His gentle quiet voice, then we will have the peace in our hearts to be able to HEAR Him. God is not impressed by impatience; waiting on Him is an expression of faith.

Seventh --- PETTITION. How often prayer only begins and ENDS with this! God is not a "cosmic Santa". He's our DAD. God knows what you need; and He has promised to MEET your needs. God will also meet your desires, if you delight yourself in Him. (Psalm 37:4) Because, if you're delighting in Him, YOUR desires will be HIS!

James says "You have not, because you do not ask; you ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions." James4:1-3

Understand --- God has set forth a law; before you ASK for material things, make sure you have brought in the TITHE. I don't mean just to certain churches; God also honors worthwhile charities. It is the one way we can TEST Him. If we do not give, God will not give to us; give sparingly, God gives sparingly. Give GENEROUSLY, God will open the windows of His store-houses upon us.


Prayer is the answer to "wavering faith"; prayer brings us close to God. BACK close to God.

You spend time with your family and friends; WILL you not spend time with your Creator, who loves you more than anyone else? I pray that you will.
 
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In James 4, he writes: "Submit therefore to God; resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and HE will draw near to YOU."

Throughout our Christian lives, we are warned about DILIGENCE. We are required to be diligent, to walk in Him; to draw near to Him. Else we may grow cold and distant from him.

"Strong faith", is a combination of FACTS (the same facts that BROUGHT us to Christ), and conviction of what we've learned, commitment to walk in Him. All relationships require effort. How embarassing to begin speaking of "falling from faith", if we've never really made the effort to SEEK Him.
 
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God is REAL. God thinks and feels. He laughs and cries. Do you feel "distant" in your faith? Be comforted that EVEYONE does at some time or another, and KNOW beyond any uncertainty that a REAL PERSONAL CONSCIOUS God, is capable of answering back those who SEEK Him.

More than just "capable"; He is WILLING.

It's not ONE-SIDED; He indwells us; He answers those who ask. Seek Him, dwell in Him; the more you do, the less-wavering your faith will be.

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(James 1:22) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

(1Samuel 3:21) And the LORD appeared again in Shiloh: for the LORD revealed himself to Samuel in Shiloh by the word of the LORD.

1. The Lord revealed Himself to ___________ [insert your Name]

2. In Shiloh ______________ [insert your town]

3. By the WORD of the Lord __________ [ How did GOD, REVEAL Himself?]

BY THE WORD OF THE LORD!

Thanks, Roger459

 
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