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*[[Gen 2:5]] KJV* And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field BEFORE IT GREW: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
ANOTHER:
*[[Gen 2:8]] KJV* And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Does it not say here that the garden was "planted" AFTER he created man?
And finally:
*[[Gen 2:9]] KJV* And OUT OF THE GROUND made the LORD God to grow EVERY tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the TREE OF LIFE ALSO in the midst of the garden, AND the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
This verse seems to say that the two "sacred" trees were also planted. That would seem to point to no fruit being produced for at least several years. But the initial point is that there were three essential components to making the garden grow.
1. It was planted from seeds after the creation of Adam.
2. It did not have rain to grow. Only a mist.
3. Man was created to be the tiller of the garden... to help it grow.
The typical knee jerk reaction is that God created the garden in a "pristine" state. Man did not live very long, very short assumption of fact, until he sinned.
4. *[[Gen 4:14]] KJV* Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
This would also seem to concur, that Cain, as an adult, was forbidden access to the "face" of God. Would this not be banishment from the garden? BEFORE ADAMS TRANSGRESSION OF THE FALL?
Gen 5 says this:
*[[Gen 5:1]] KJV* This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
And as most all are aware, it begins with the birth of Seth, 130 years later. Eve did not get her name UNTIL the fall:
*[[Gen 3:13]] KJV* And the LORD God said unto the WOMAN, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
God addressed her only as "the woman", nameless. But then we find this:
*[[Gen 3:20]] KJV* And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.
Her sin/ his transgression, caused death to come upon every living creature. Everything that now lives, DIES. So, this suggests that Eve is named BECAUSE of the fall. Notice how the "generations of Adam" are structured. Abc, lived X years, begat "DEF", lived after he begat... and died. Etc., etc. The "starting" point seems to indicate that it was the initiation of death. Making Seth, being the first born after the fall, 130 years later. After all, it says Adam "lived" 930 years. And then he died. The scriptures are clear, tha Seth was born after Cain and Abel. Death didn't start working in his(adams) members, until the fall. This would seem to put a cloud over any theoretical date of creation. Don't get me wrong. I am a firm believer in a young earth. But this is besides that point.
The PuP
ANOTHER:
*[[Gen 2:8]] KJV* And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Does it not say here that the garden was "planted" AFTER he created man?
And finally:
*[[Gen 2:9]] KJV* And OUT OF THE GROUND made the LORD God to grow EVERY tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the TREE OF LIFE ALSO in the midst of the garden, AND the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
This verse seems to say that the two "sacred" trees were also planted. That would seem to point to no fruit being produced for at least several years. But the initial point is that there were three essential components to making the garden grow.
1. It was planted from seeds after the creation of Adam.
2. It did not have rain to grow. Only a mist.
3. Man was created to be the tiller of the garden... to help it grow.
The typical knee jerk reaction is that God created the garden in a "pristine" state. Man did not live very long, very short assumption of fact, until he sinned.
4. *[[Gen 4:14]] KJV* Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
This would also seem to concur, that Cain, as an adult, was forbidden access to the "face" of God. Would this not be banishment from the garden? BEFORE ADAMS TRANSGRESSION OF THE FALL?
Gen 5 says this:
*[[Gen 5:1]] KJV* This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
And as most all are aware, it begins with the birth of Seth, 130 years later. Eve did not get her name UNTIL the fall:
*[[Gen 3:13]] KJV* And the LORD God said unto the WOMAN, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
God addressed her only as "the woman", nameless. But then we find this:
*[[Gen 3:20]] KJV* And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.
Her sin/ his transgression, caused death to come upon every living creature. Everything that now lives, DIES. So, this suggests that Eve is named BECAUSE of the fall. Notice how the "generations of Adam" are structured. Abc, lived X years, begat "DEF", lived after he begat... and died. Etc., etc. The "starting" point seems to indicate that it was the initiation of death. Making Seth, being the first born after the fall, 130 years later. After all, it says Adam "lived" 930 years. And then he died. The scriptures are clear, tha Seth was born after Cain and Abel. Death didn't start working in his(adams) members, until the fall. This would seem to put a cloud over any theoretical date of creation. Don't get me wrong. I am a firm believer in a young earth. But this is besides that point.
The PuP