Was it PRIDE and mocking the enemy that made Elijah vulnerable to fear?

[tturt]

Sometimes the enemy will attack after a victory such as after Moses received the 10 commandments and Peter stated who Jesus was. Being a prophet, think Elijah realized a lot more about Jezebel's wickedness. Sometimes prophets are loners like John the Baptist. But Elijah said I'm the only one but Obadiah had told him, he had hidden100 prophets. Perhaps he didn't want to reveal them or they werent standing with him. But he told God he was the only prophet left and they were trying to kill him. That's when God told him He had 7000 who had not bowed to Baal. Also, Elijah said he wasnt any better than his fathers. Where did that come from? Did the death threat expose self pity?

 

[Neogaia777]

It's not unusual for the enemy to attack after a victory such as after Moses received the 10 commandments and Peter stated who Jesus was. Being a prophet, think Elijah realized a lot more about Jezebel's wickedness. Sometimes prophets are loners like John the Baptist. But Elijah said I'm the only one but Obadiah had told him, he had hidden100 prophets. Perhaps he didn't want to reveal them or they werent standing with him. But he told God he was the only prophet left and they were trying to kill him. That's when God told him He had 7000 who had not bowed to Baal. Also, Elijah said he wasnt any better than his fathers. Where did that come from? Self pity?

It was from Jezebels threat, he (Elijah) (at that point) didn't think, or seriously doubted, if he was any better than his fathers who had apostasized, or who became bad or evil or wicked or false prophets like the ones he had just killed, or had killed... which was part of Jezebels threat, that by morningtime, she was going to petition the gods and even his God, and make him out to be no better than they, etc, and have Elijah killed, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Woke]

Here is how this hit me when I first heard this.......

Elijah never got to read what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus said about calling somebody a fool.......

but these statements would be true..... even seven centuries before they were clarified for us?!

So how would this affect the whole situation????

Is this irrelevant due to the Prophets of Baal not being Elijah's brothers??

The parable of the Good Samaritan sure seems to expand who the word brethren should be applied to??

Matthew 5

Mat 5:22

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

It's best to look at what Jesus said and the advice he gave in the context of his speech and his own actions. Some manuscripts start quoting Matthew 5:22 by including the phrase angry "without cause. " But whether Christ said "without cause " there or not we know both he and his Father become angry at people. And we know since we are created in their image they expect the same from us.

When Christ said not to call other brothers or sisters fools he was stating the final degree of judgment we place upon them, which started with becoming angry at them. Since Christ as the word of God called people stupid and fools Matthew 5:22 must mean more than what it merely says on its face. And remember when speaking on other topics, such as adultery, in this Sermon on the Mount Christ considers certain actions as if performing other activities that people consider are worse actions. These statements at Matthew 5:22 probably have to do with judging others not worthy of salvation, since we know that is not our place.

Christ is not one to throw anyone into eternal damnation just because they called someone a fool. So what might he mean? Throughout history people have judged other people, even killed other people for not sharing the same beliefs about God and worshiping God with their group. Doing so not only harms those people who are labeled, but the ones labeling them have sat themselves in the seat of Christ. And if they are in Christ's seat themselves, then aren't they antichrists having usurped his position?

 

[DennisTate]

It's best to look at what Jesus said and the advice he gave in the context of his speech and his own actions. Some manuscripts start quoting Matthew 5:22 by including the phrase angry "without cause. " But whether Christ said "without cause " there or not we know both he and his Father become angry at people. And we know since we are created in their image they expect the same from us.

When Christ said not to call other brothers or sisters fools he was stating the final degree of judgment we place upon them, which started with becoming angry at them. Since Christ as the word of God called people stupid and fools Matthew 5:22 must mean more than what it merely says on its face. And remember when speaking on other topics, such as adultery, in this Sermon on the Mount Christ considers certain actions as if performing other activities that people consider are worse actions. These statements at Matthew 5:22 probably have to do with judging others not worthy of salvation, since we know that is not our place.

Christ is not one to throw anyone into eternal damnation just because they called someone a fool. So what might he mean? Throughout history people have judged other people, even killed other people for not sharing the same beliefs about God and worshiping God with their group. Doing so not only harms those people who are labeled, but the ones labeling them have sat themselves in the seat of Christ. And if they are in Christ's seat themselves, then aren't they antichrists having usurped his position?

Good points.......
I didn't think though that Elijah was condemned..... merely that he opened a door to being humbled much as perhaps may have happened to Paul with his "thorn in the flesh" that apparently kept him from becoming proud due to the amazing visions and spiritual power that he had been given.