Was Abraham Saved by Faith Alone? Are the Protestants Right?

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Today is the Feast Day of Father Abraham. Most Catholics do not know that many of the heroes of the Old Testament are regarded as saints!

“The patriarchs, prophets, and certain other Old Testament figures have been and always will be honored as saints in all the Church’s liturgical traditions.” (paragraph 61)

In honor of this feast day I am posting this article on Abraham, a critique I made of a book falsely claiming Abraham was saved by “faith alone.”

Was Abraham saved by Faith Alone? By Steve Ray


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You say, “Of course Abraham was saved by faith alone! Doesn’t the Bible make that perfectly clear, especially in Paul’s letters? And didn’t Luther’s German translation inform the masses that the words “faith” and “alone” belonged together like bread and butter? Abraham was saved by faith alone!”


Well, maybe he was and maybe he wasn’t, but the Bible certainly throws some question on this well-known Protestant cliché. Let’s find out how and when Abraham was really “saved.”

Fundamentalist Protestants like to tell us that we are saved at “one-point-in-time when we “simply believe.” In other words mental assent to the simple gospel gives us a free passage to heaven.


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Since Abraham is used in the New Testament as the quintessential example of justification by faith, let’s see if we can pin-point the moment when Abraham believed? Can we locate the exact moment he was “saved”? Since this was such a momentous occasion in the history of mankind, and in the drama of salvation history, it should be clearly shown when Abraham actually believed and was reckoned as righteous. From unbelief to belief, from no faith to saving faith.


Protestants (e.g., John Ankerberg in Protestants and Catholics, Do They Now Agree? [Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publ., 1995) like to say the word “justify” as used by James really means “vindicate,” and that “vindicate” has nothing to do with salvation, but has to do with the proving of the believer’s faith—Abraham’s faith. You really should have addressed the major weakness of this perspective: it is not the faith that is being justified by works—it is the man.


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How can we justify this? If our theory holds true shouldn’t we read, “Was not Abraham our father’s faith justified (vindicated) by works?” making it clear that it is his faith, and not his person. Instead we read, unfortunately, “Was not Abraham our father justified by works?” This observation does not set well with our interpretation.


In your book you say that it is always the faith that is proven by works, whereas the Apostle James seems to say it is the person. We should try to figure out how James could have worded this passage more carefully so Catholics don’t get the wrong idea and misunderstand the gospel. You also say in your book (p. 37) that “Paul is writing about a person being justified before God, while James is writing about a man being justified before men. Men cannot see another person’s heart as God can.”

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Was Abraham Saved by Faith Alone? Are the Protestants Right? – Defenders of the Catholic Faith
 

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Abraham knew God, God knew Abraham. Whatever works there were was incidental to that fact
God is a reality. God is a Being a person realizes when God wills that realization. Faith is not an intellectual or emotional concept a person "wills' himself or consents to believe.
Once a person knows God, sees the light, as the Protestants say, then a person cannot unknow that.
Paul could fail God, fail as any human can fail but Paul could never deny God after the incident on the road to Damascus
Peter denied Christ but Peter was well aware he was lying.
A person cannot unknow God how ever that person responds to God after the moment of truth called salvation.
I am not certain, if a person who continues to commit sins after they are saved or even, in bitterness, blaspheme God, thinking God is a bad bargain as God does not always do what a person believes God should do, perhaps that person will end in darkness which is hell, being cut off from God.
However, not could but would Paul have grievously sinned? Would any of the Christians here do so? So much for "free will."
 
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I think a fair other perspective would be to ask:

Was Abraham saved because he finally did enough good works? I don't think anyone here would favor that idea.

And the thief on the cross seems to be the ultimate example of faith alone, and probably not baptized as well.

But I am not a fan of "Faith Alone" as our benchmark. If one believes salvation is a two dimensional thing - get saved at one point and you are done (OSAS), it fits better.

But I also find the Once Saved Always Saved position, to be much less Biblical than Faith Alone.

I believe both Catholics and Lutherans agree that the OSAS view is not correct - that we do "get saved" at one point, but we must remain, we must Abide in Him as He says. We must endure to the end. We must "Strive to enter through the narrow gate."

Those statements make no sense if salvation is a one and done and you can never loose it. No sense at all.
 
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Abraham may have believed, but he also did what he was told (usually). It's more than just belief.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote in one of his articles somewhere, "Only he who believes obeys, and only he who obeys believes" (or words to that effect).
 
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While it is stated that when Abraham believed God it was reckoned to him as righteousness, James understands that to be prophecy that is then fulfilled when Abraham is willing to sacrifice Isaac:

"Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, and the scripture was fulfilled which says, ‘Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness’; and he was called the friend of God'.” (James 2:21-23)

So Abraham was not justified by 'faith alone' but rather God in his foreknowledge knew Abraham would fulfill his faith by his works.

Not to mention when Abraham's faith is "reckoned to him as righteousness" (Genesis 15:5-6) is not the first time Abraham believed. He previously trusted God to leave his homeland (Genesis 12:1-4) and the book of Hebrews says of this event "By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place which he was to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was to go. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise.” (Hebrews 11:8-9)

So if we are justified by faith alone in a one-time event, Abraham should have been justified when he left his homeland, not later when he believed he would have a child. Unless of course, justification is not a one-time event but rather a process as Catholics would understand.
 
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In James 2:21, notice closely that James does not say that Abraham's work of offering up Isaac resulted in God accounting Abraham as righteous. The accounting of Abraham's faith as righteousness was made in Genesis 15:6, many years before his work of offering up Isaac recorded in Genesis 22. The work of Abraham did not have some kind of intrinsic merit to account him as righteous, but it showed or manifested the genuineness of his faith. That is the "sense" in which Abraham was "justified by works." He was shown to be righteous.

In James 2:22, faith made perfect or complete by works means bring to maturity, to complete like love in 1 John 4:18. It doesn't mean that Abraham was finally saved based on merits of his works after he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22. When Abraham performed the good work in Genesis 22; he fulfilled the expectations created by the pronouncement of his faith in Genesis 15:6.

In James 2:23, the scripture was fulfilled in vindicating or demonstrating that Abraham believed God and was accounted as righteous. Abraham was accounted as righteous based on his faith (Genesis 15:6) not his works (Romans 4:2-3) long before he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22.
 
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In James 2:21, notice closely that James does not say that Abraham's work of offering up Isaac resulted in God accounting Abraham as righteous. The accounting of Abraham's faith as righteousness was made in Genesis 15:6, many years before his work of offering up Isaac recorded in Genesis 22. The work of Abraham did not have some kind of intrinsic merit to account him as righteous, but it showed or manifested the genuineness of his faith. That is the "sense" in which Abraham was "justified by works." He was shown to be righteous.

In James 2:22, faith made perfect or complete by works means bring to maturity, to complete like love in 1 John 4:18. It doesn't mean that Abraham was finally saved based on merits of his works after he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22. When Abraham performed the good work in Genesis 22; he fulfilled the expectations created by the pronouncement of his faith in Genesis 15:6.

In James 2:23, the scripture was fulfilled in vindicating or demonstrating that Abraham believed God and was accounted as righteous. Abraham was accounted as righteous based on his faith (Genesis 15:6) not his works (Romans 4:2-3) long before he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22.
Why wasn't he accounted as righteousness when he first demonstrated faith in Genesis 12?
 
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Why wasn't he accounted as righteousness when he first demonstrated faith in Genesis 12?
Because the Bible says that it was not until Genesis 15:5-6 when God brought Abraham outside and said, "Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them." And He said to him, "So shall your descendants be." And Abraham believed in the Lord, and God accounted it to him for righteousness. Nothing is mentioned in scripture about Abraham's faith being accounted to him for righteousness prior to that event.
 
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Because the Bible says that it was not until Genesis 15:5-6 when God brought Abraham outside and said, "Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them." And He said to him, "So shall your descendants be." And Abraham believed in the Lord, and God accounted it to him for righteousness. Nothing is mentioned in scripture about Abraham's faith being accounted to him for righteousness prior to that event.
So sometimes faith is accounted to a person as righteousness and sometimes it is not? And you don't know how many times you have to have faith before it gets counted?
 
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So sometimes faith is accounted to a person as righteousness and sometimes it is not? And you don't know how many times you have to have faith before it gets counted?
Either faith is accounted for righteousness once for all time or else it's not.
 
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Abraham did works 'from' his faith.
He prayed over others.
He obeyed the Lord accepting the loss of his son...
etc etc etc
For it was faith alone that led him to do those works.
 
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Either faith is accounted for righteousness once for all time or else it's not.
It's not.

Our free will to do works [SEE St James] is our cooperation.
If we were made to be mere puppets we'd still be in paradise.

James 2. God has chosen the poor of this world who are rich in faith—Salvation is gained by keeping the whole law—Faith without works is dead. 1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

I could keep on quoting St Paul [noisy clanging without love] and the list would go on. Not all who say Lord Lord will enter.
There are those put with goats on the left. [Jesus]
 
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Either faith is accounted for righteousness once for all time or else it's not.
Either faith is accounted for righteousness once for all time or else it's not.
Hebrews 11:8-9 "By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place which he was to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was to go. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise." That corresponds to Genesis 12:1-4, when Abraham is asked to leave his homeland and follow God to a new land.

Then later Abraham believed that God would bless him with a child -- “And he brought him outside and said, ‘Look toward heaven, and number the stars, if you are able to number them.’ Then he said to him, ‘So shall your descendants be.’ And he believed the Lord; and he reckoned it to him as righteousness.” (Genesis 15:5-6)

So why wasn't Abraham's faith credited to him a righteousness the first time he believed, yet it was the second time?

And if that's how it works, there is no way for any person to ever know that their faith has counted them as righteous. First time, second time, third time -- who knows?
 
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It's not.

Our free will to do works [SEE St James] is our cooperation.
If we were made to be mere puppets we'd still be in paradise.

James 2. God has chosen the poor of this world who are rich in faith—Salvation is gained by keeping the whole law—Faith without works is dead. 1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

I could keep on quoting St Paul [noisy clanging without love] and the list would go on. Not all who say Lord Lord will enter.
There are those put with goats on the left. [Jesus]
Romans 8:30 - Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. ALL of them.

We are not justified by works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. (Galatians 2:16) A dead faith that produces no works is not genuine faith, but is an empty profession of faith. (James 2:14) Hence, faith without works is dead.

Faith works through love (Galatians 5:6) and Jesus never knew these many people in Matthew 7:22-23 which means they were never saved.
 
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Hebrews 11:8-9 "By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place which he was to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was to go. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise." That corresponds to Genesis 12:1-4, when Abraham is asked to leave his homeland and follow God to a new land.

Then later Abraham believed that God would bless him with a child -- “And he brought him outside and said, ‘Look toward heaven, and number the stars, if you are able to number them.’ Then he said to him, ‘So shall your descendants be.’ And he believed the Lord; and he reckoned it to him as righteousness.” (Genesis 15:5-6)

So why wasn't Abraham's faith credited to him a righteousness the first time he believed, yet it was the second time?

And if that's how it works, there is no way for any person to ever know that their faith has counted them as righteous. First time, second time, third time -- who knows?
It sounds to me like you are over thinking this.
 
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Not at all. People like to hold up Abraham to prove justification by faith alone, but they ignore the fact that he wasn't justified when he first believed.
You can believe whatever you want, but Genesis 15:5-6 and Romans 4:2-3 is crystal clear to me
 
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This Protestant sophistry that good works are for display purposes only and without merit is a pharisaical vice not a Christian virtue.
Salvation by works is a pharisaical vice and not a Christian virtue. (Romans 4:5-6; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9 etc..).
 
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You can believe whatever you want, but Genesis 15:5-6 and Romans 4:2-3 is crystal clear to me
I agree its crystal clear. Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.

It's also crystal clear that was not the first time Abraham believed God, and either it wasn't credited to him as righteousness the first time, or faith making us righteous is not a one-time event in a person's life. The correct answer is the second one.
 
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