Warning to the People

[FutureAndAHope]

Hi,

I have been studying the following prophecy for some years, seeking to know if it was genuine, and on all accounts I have found that the source is a genuine one, having watched Minos (in video form) deliver it. It is called the Valdres Prophecy. It accurately tells events from the day it was written down in 1964 (or 8) to today. The reason I post it here is to give warning, to your churches. Basically:

The Valdres Prophecy[1][2][3] from 1964[1] or 1968[3], recorded by Imanuel Minos[4], known as the Billy Graham of the North, and read in his meetings, details events leading up to the Ukraine War; specifically the sins of the world and failing of the church. In the prophecy it ends by saying that the war will turn Nuclear, with the Western Nations becoming a target. Minos died well before the Ukraine war, so could not have imagined Russian President Putin's remarks to start a Nuclear War[5][7] as seen in the secular news media of today. The fact that both the Prophecy and Putin give this warning, should cause us to diligently seek the truth. This page talks about the prophecy and has a transcript from one of its readings. The prophecy is important due to its accuracy, foretelling events between 1964 and today, and giving clues to future events based on current events on the world stage.

See a transcript of the prophecy at The Valdres Prophecy so you can seek discernment for those under your care.

Robert Palmer

 

[Michael 777]

Hi,

I have been studying the following prophecy for some years, seeking to know if it was genuine, and on all accounts I have found that the source is a genuine one, having watched Minos (in video form) deliver it. It is called the Valdres Prophecy. It accurately tells events from the day it was written down in 1964 (or 8) to today. The reason I post it here is to give warning, to your churches. Basically:

The Valdres Prophecy[1][2][3] from 1964[1] or 1968[3], recorded by Imanuel Minos[4], known as the Billy Graham of the North, and read in his meetings, details events leading up to the Ukraine War; specifically the sins of the world and failing of the church. In the prophecy it ends by saying that the war will turn Nuclear, with the Western Nations becoming a target. Minos died well before the Ukraine war, so could not have imagined Russian President Putin's remarks to start a Nuclear War[5][7] as seen in the secular news media of today. The fact that both the Prophecy and Putin give this warning, should cause us to diligently seek the truth. This page talks about the prophecy and has a transcript from one of its readings. The prophecy is important due to its accuracy, foretelling events between 1964 and today, and giving clues to future events based on current events on the world stage.

See a transcript of the prophecy at The Valdres Prophecy so you can seek discernment for those under your care.

Robert Palmer

Interesting. One prophecy I find very insightful is the one written by David Wilkerson in 1974. He published a book on it called the Vision. Also speaks of the degradation of moral values, war, financial crashes etc.

Many Christians find these prophecies negative and unhelpful but one needs to understand that the Bible is very clear on what happens in the end times. The only thing we dont know is the timing. We should be ready at all times for the return of Jesus.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

One prophecy I find very insightful is the one written by David Wilkerson in 1974

Just listened to his vision, many of the things in it are slowly coming to pass today.

ALso found this quote on another latter vision:

"Then in the 1980's he prophesied that America is Babylon the Great harlot of Revelation that will be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust."

This fits with the Valdres Prophecy of 1964 (or 8).

 

[Matt5]

Hi,

I have been studying the following prophecy for some years, seeking to know if it was genuine, and on all accounts I have found that the source is a genuine one, having watched Minos (in video form) deliver it. It is called the Valdres Prophecy. It accurately tells events from the day it was written down in 1964 (or 8) to today. The reason I post it here is to give warning, to your churches. Basically:

The Valdres Prophecy[1][2][3] from 1964[1] or 1968[3], recorded by Imanuel Minos[4], known as the Billy Graham of the North, and read in his meetings, details events leading up to the Ukraine War; specifically the sins of the world and failing of the church. In the prophecy it ends by saying that the war will turn Nuclear, with the Western Nations becoming a target. Minos died well before the Ukraine war, so could not have imagined Russian President Putin's remarks to start a Nuclear War[5][7] as seen in the secular news media of today. The fact that both the Prophecy and Putin give this warning, should cause us to diligently seek the truth. This page talks about the prophecy and has a transcript from one of its readings. The prophecy is important due to its accuracy, foretelling events between 1964 and today, and giving clues to future events based on current events on the world stage.

See a transcript of the prophecy at The Valdres Prophecy so you can seek discernment for those under your care.

Robert Palmer

Generally, I agree with this prophecy on the destruction of America. Although, it is not likely that a big war will start for no reason. We need a Sarajevo. I think that is the Israeli war going on right now. If this Israeli war blows up then the clock starts ticking for WW3.

Interestingly, people don't care about WW3. They won't listen.

One thing I noticed was that a fatal dose of radiation looks a lot like hell with the weeping and gnashing of the teeth. Check out this short video from HBO:

What radiation does to the human body | HBO's Chernobyl - YouTube

Did you see the guy screaming in pain from the radiation? Imagine being at home for that. Anyway, this screaming in pain will happen to billions of people.

 

[mourningdove~]

The reason I post it here is to give warning, to your churches.

Here in America, there don't appear to be many churches that are preparing their people for the times ahead.

I'm so hoping I am wrong about this^, but I just don't understand the apparent silence coming from so many pulpits at this time. In so many churches, it seems like they're just doing 'business as usual', but these times are not 'business as usual' times.

... So, I find the posting of your warning to potentially be very helpful.

 

[mourningdove~]

Interestingly, people don't care about WW3. They won't listen.

That is how it is here in America, too.

I think for us here, life has been so good for so long that folks actually don't believe a WWIII can happen. There are many evil things that the average American doesn't yet appear to believe can happen. There are many here that don't think America could ever be anything other than a Democratic Republic. And yet, our country is changing ...

Many of us alive here now have only known times of national safety; but things here have changed, and are changing. I think many don't want to acknowledge the changes. I see denial, I see normalcy bias, blinding many. It IS hard though, apart from faith in Jesus Christ, to look with open eyes at what is happening now in America, and the world. (I understand that.)

But some of us here do realize that America, and the world, are in great danger.
And we are praying. For God's Mercy, for the salvation of many souls ...

 

[Paidiske]

It's an interesting question to ponder. If I knew - absolutely knew for certain - that nuclear war was coming soon, would I do anything different in leading my congregation?

Probably not. My job is to form them in Christian maturity and lead them in Christian mission; and that job is the same whether nuclear war is coming or not.

 

[mourningdove~]

It's an interesting question to ponder. If I knew - absolutely knew for certain - that nuclear war was coming soon, would I do anything different in leading my congregation?

Probably not. My job is to form them in Christian maturity and lead them in Christian mission; and that job is the same whether nuclear war is coming or not.

If your congregation is formed in Christian maturity, and moving forward in Christian mission ... they sound 'prepared'!

 

[Bob Crowley]

CS Lewis addressed this in his essay "On Living in an Atomic Age".

In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. 'How are we to live in an atomic age?' I am tempted to reply: 'Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost evey year, or as you would in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night: or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.'

.... It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

... If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things - praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts, not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs...

I'm not belittling the severity of the challenges facing us, or the growing anti-Christian ethic of the West, but we've always lived under the Damocles sword of death. Caiphas, Annas, PIlate, mocking Herod Antipas and the soldiers who crucified Christ all died themselves at some stage, and I suspect quite a few of them have been in hell for the last 2000 years.

Matthew 27:19 NIV While Pilate was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.”

That's the real threat.

 

[Simonides]

I'm not even sure that nukes exist, so I don't pay much heed to nuclear war propaganda or alleged prophesies. Christ could return at any time. I'm gonna look Him in the face, and He's going to look right into the depth of my being. If He sees even a small reflection of Himself, as small as a mustard seed, everything is gonna be just fine.

 

[The Liturgist]

I'm not even sure that nukes exist,

If you are suggesting that nuclear weapons may never have existed, I would find that morally objectionable, considering the people injured and killed by them, both deliberately and as a result of accidents relating to their development and testing, for example, the fishermen who experienced acute radiation poisoning, with one fatality, as a result of the Castle Bravo test in 1954, or various military personnel who were intentionally exposed, but without themselves being adequately briefed on the dangers (which were not themselves fully understood), and also the many people whose lives were ruined or prematurely ended in other ways by the nuclear arms race and the cold war (which could be applied to all victims of Chernobyl, since Soviet state secrecy concerning nuclear projects contributed to the construction of power plants of an unsafe design, and their operation in an unsafe manner, without the supervision that existed in the west).

We know from the specific injuries and after-effects of nuclear weapons deployed in Japan, and also of later nuclear weapons testing, that nuclear weapons definitely existed, and this is evinced for example by the existence of “Trinitite” which was sand fused into glass at the Alamogordo Bombing Range during the test code-named “Trinity” (most likely in reference to the Hindu trimurti belief system, based on Oppenheimer’s apparent interest in the Bhagavad Gita, as opposed to the foundational Christian doctrine), by the intense heat of a nuclear fission reaction produced by the ground-burst of a plutonium device, which generated quite a bit of fall-out (the earliest nuclear bombs were quite “dirty” due to their reliance only on fission and their detonation close to the surface, which resulted in more material being irradiated, sucked into the atmosphere by the vortex and dispersed, but this has the effect of proving these incidents occurred, even though the radiation has now dispersed, but other fission products from other incidents have a much longer half life and still exist in abundance, particularly those ejected from Chernobyl, which did not undergo a prompt critical reaction like a true nuclear weapon, but which nonetheless did explode, dispersing highly radioactive material into the environment).

If on the other hand it is your position that nuclear weapons might no longer exist, there are legitimate views in the military concurrent that the US nuclear deterrent, or the Russian nuclear deterrent, might be overstated, since the accumulation of alpha radiation in the plutonium pit of a thermonuclear weapon can lead to pockets of ionized helium forming inside the plutonium, which if left unchecked could potentially cause the warhead to fizzle. And there are also concerns about the theft of plutonium from the Russian nuclear weapons stockpile during the 1990s and even beyond, due to widespread corruption, but it would be unwise for anyone to count on that strategically, since the former problem can be remediated and the latter problem may or may not occur, but it did not stop other countries such as North Korea from engaging in confirmed nuclear tests which produced radiation which was detected.

But the view that no nuclear weapons exist at present is not supported by the evidence, although it is more credible at least than a belief in a flat Earth or that the moon landings were faked or other errors.

Christ could return at any time. I'm gonna look Him in the face, and He's going to look right into the depth of my being.

What many people seem to ignore is that that will happen even if Christ does not return in their own lifetime.

What people also ignore is that the return of Christ is not necessarily something to look forward to, since it is an event that appears based on the scriptural prophecies to be preceded by extreme suffering, and the incarnate Word and Son of God will return as Pantocrator. There is a reason why onr of the oldest hymns and liturgical texts, the Litany after the Consecration of the Holy Gifts, used in the Byzantine and Armenian liturgies, includes the prayer “A Christian ending to our lives, painless, blameless and a good defense before the dread judgement seat of Christ, let us ask of the Lord.”

This all being said, it is otherwise a good thing that you do not allow yourself to be impassioned by propaganda, or concerns over a nuclear war most of us are powerless to prevent.

 

[The Liturgist]

CS Lewis addressed this in his essay "On Living in an Atomic Age".


I'm not belittling the severity of the challenges facing us, or the growing anti-Christian ethic of the West, but we've always lived under the Damocles sword of death. Caiphas, Annas, PIlate, mocking Herod Antipas and the soldiers who crucified Christ all died themselves at some stage, and I suspect quite a few of them have been in hell for the last 2000 years.

Matthew 27:19 NIV While Pilate was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.”

That's the real threat.

Interestingly, the Ethiopian Orthodox believe, as did many early Christians, particularly in the East, where Pontius Pilate is held in much higher regard than in the West, where he tended to be demonized by the Roman church during the period of estrangement between Roman Catholicism and the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Christians, that Pontius Pilate converted to Christianity and was martyred, and thus they venerate him as a saint.

I myself am inclined to agree with this view, not based on the written evidence, the reliability of which is doubtful, but rather based on the exceptional piety of the Ethiopian Christians. I don’t know of anyone else who can pray in church for up to 24 hours on some occasions even while suffering from famine and starvation. They, more than anyone else, are nurtured by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Bob Crowley]

The Liturgist said this;
"What people also ignore is that the return of Christ is not necessarily something to look forward to..."

I agree with the sentiment. It may mean that Christians have something to look forward to in the long run (once they've done their time in Purgatory which I happent to believe in), but the event itself will be cataclysmic, and quite appalling.

What Did Peter Say About The End Times? | Liberty Live Church

There is more to this life than this life. What you believe about the Lord’s return determines how you live today.

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In 2 Peter 3:10, he says, “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; on that day the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, the elements will burn and be dissolved, and the earth and the works on it will be disclosed.”

I think the spectacle of the universe passing away with a loud noise and the elements burning and dissolving will not be something to look forward to, no matter what our spiritual state might be at the time.

 

[The Liturgist]

I agree with the sentiment. It may mean that Christians have something to look forward to in the long run (once they've done their time in Purgatory which I happent to believe in), but the event itself will be cataclysmic, and quite appalling.

What Did Peter Say About The End Times? | Liberty Live Church

There is more to this life than this life. What you believe about the Lord’s return determines how you live today.

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I think the spectacle of the universe passing away with a loud noise and the elements burning and dissolving will not be something to look forward to, no matter what our spiritual state might be at the time.

More still, the disclosure of all our sins is a difficult thing to contemplate with equanimity. Our only hope is faith in our loving, all-merciful and ever-compassionate Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ, who has made it clear He desires not the death of a sinner.

 

[Simonides]

What makes you characterize that statement as ignorant? Do you feel I mischaracterized traditional Eastern and Oriental Orthodox eschatology? Or more broadly speaking, the eschatology of traditional Christian churches?

Because it seems to me that the second coming is not something to be anticipated with enthusiasm unless one is either a Universalist and is thus unconcerned with the Last Judgement, or else subscribes to a Chiliast theology such as Premillenial Dispensationalism, in which the Second Coming is not immediately followed by the Last Judgement.

But even then, since I qualified remark with the phrase “not necessarily”, so as to accommodate those views, I am at a loss as to why you would regard such a statement as ignorant.

I did not make any statements denying that Christ could return at any second, and indeed, few would argue the world at present does constitute a state of extreme suffering.

That said, in the event I made an error, I am inviting my beloved fellow traditional Christians @prodromos @dzheremi @chevyontheriver and @MarkRohfrietsch and my friend @Paidiske who represents a contemporary Anglican perspective to review my remarks to see if I am as totally off base as you have suggested.

I don't know how to say this without appearing unkind, or worse, violating Christ's clear commands about brotherly love and respect. But at least you can know that I tried.

I wanted to make sure I had not misjudged you, so I went and read maybe several dozen of your recent offerings. It is clear to me that you are a very learned individual who has been involved in a fair amount of Christian service in your life. I respect both your service and your intellect. But you are wrong about so many things I couldn't begin to list them all. And that's fine, no one gets it all right all the time.

But that's not my criticism, and as you don't seem to be the type who often considers alternative points of view, I won't attempt to educate you. This is exactly how you talk to your brothers and sisters by the way.

What does stand out to me, and honestly,
I completely overlooked it at first, is just how little your posts glorify Christ. This is not an indictment, or any type of condemnation whatsoever, (I try very hard to serve and not judge) but merely an exhortation. And seeing as I have clearly said far too much already.
I'll just leave this here for your prayerful consideration.

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"

The Holy Spirit Glorifies Christ​

The Holy Spirit’s primary role is to exalt, honor, and magnify Jesus Christ. According to Jesus Himself, the Holy Spirit’s mission is to “glorify” Him (John 16:14). This glorification occurs in various ways:

1. Revealing Jesus’ character: The Holy Spirit helps believers understand and apply Jesus’ teachings, demonstrating His character and nature (John 16:13-15).
2. Convicting of sin: The Holy Spirit convicts people of their sin, leading them to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ (John 16:8-11).
3. Guiding believers: The Holy Spirit guides believers in their walk with Christ, directing them to live in obedience to His commands and to glorify Him in their lives (John 16:13).
4. Empowering worship: The Holy Spirit enables believers to worship Jesus with freedom and abandon, lifting up His name and character (John 4:23-24).
5. Transforming lives: As believers yield to the Holy Spirit’s guidance and empowerment, their lives are transformed to reflect the character and nature of Jesus Christ, ultimately glorifying Him (2 Corinthians 3:18).

 

[Paidiske]

What people also ignore is that the return of Christ is not necessarily something to look forward to,

Since you asked, my friend, I will offer an opinion.

What you are saying about the return of Christ is not, objectively or intellectually, untrue in terms of the disruption of evil or the seriousness of the judgement we can expect. But it is... it seems to me, and I offer here a personal opinion... a little emotionally off kilter for Christians. Since earliest times the Church has prayed 'maranatha,' as an expression of longing and hope. Advent, when we focus on Christ's return and what it means for our lives now, is not a season of dread or despair, but one of joy and hope. And to frame Christ's return, not as the crowning of the Christian story and the end towards which we persevere, but something to be feared, is... well, perhaps it takes one aspect of the return of Christ and magnifies it in such a way as to distort the whole.

If that makes sense?

 

[The Liturgist]

Since you asked, my friend, I will offer an opinion.

What you are saying about the return of Christ is not, objectively or intellectually, untrue in terms of the disruption of evil or the seriousness of the judgement we can expect. But it is... it seems to me, and I offer here a personal opinion... a little emotionally off kilter for Christians. Since earliest times the Church has prayed 'maranatha,' as an expression of longing and hope. Advent, when we focus on Christ's return and what it means for our lives now, is not a season of dread or despair, but one of joy and hope. And to frame Christ's return, not as the crowning of the Christian story and the end towards which we persevere, but something to be feared, is... well, perhaps it takes one aspect of the return of Christ and magnifies it in such a way as to distort the whole.

If that makes sense?

Indeed, but I would posit that the Maranatha prayer is in anticipation of what we confess we look forward to in the Creed - the life of the World to Come, which is granted to the faithful by Christ Pantocrator. Essentially, the supreme and final deliverance, of which the Last Judgement, when Christ will return in glory to judge the quick and the dead, is a necessary precursor.