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WAR CHEST: Trump Shatters Fundraising Record Following FBI Raid at Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by Valletta, Aug 10, 2022.

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  1. cow451

    cow451 Standing with Ukraine. Supporter

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    Trump cannot live without attention. His holding onto top secret documents could not be ignored.
     
  2. cow451

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    His refusing to turn over top secret documents crossed a line that could not be tolerated. The party of law and order abdicated its duty.
     
  3. wing2000

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    It was his choice to blow up the story in the media. The FBI reportedly planned to keep the search low profile.
     
  4. cow451

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    He was subpoenaed in June. He had no intention of complying. It appears some of the documents were beyond top secret and he could not be trusted to keep the information secure.
     
  5. cow451

    cow451 Standing with Ukraine. Supporter

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    The issue was who went public first. Trump.
     
  6. cow451

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    Nixon won by a landslide in 1972. Two years later he needed a presidential pardon. Trump is no longer President, praise God. I happen to believe Trump’s true nature will lead to his ultimate demise. He and Giuliani have similar character flaws. Giuliani’s fall is a foreshadowing of the fate of the former defeated President.
     
  7. wing2000

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    The FBI did B.
    They executed a low profile search warrant.
    I trust the DOJ had a very good reason to execute such a search, otherwise, they would not have taken the extraordinary step to search a former president's home.
    I also trust the AG Garland to run an independent investigation.
     
  8. Aldebaran

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    If that's what they believed he had, then what does it say about the DOJ that they allowed him to keep those documents for a year and a half--just before the mid-term election? Nothing good.
    More likely that this "nuclear" thing is just another cover for another failed operation to smear the former president to try to keep him from running for president again.
     
  9. Aldebaran

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    If Garland ran it, it wouldn't be very independent. He's the one that wanted the raid, and he's the one that authorized it.
     
  10. wing2000

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    That makes no sense.
     
  11. ThatRobGuy

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    The FBI may have tried to keep it as low profile as possible, but CNN and MSNBC did not.

    With regards to the very good reason, there's a good chance we'll find out
    Justice Dept. Moves to Unseal Warrant in Trump Search

    Garland has moved to unseal the info, so if that effort is successful, we'll see what the court of public opinion says about it...although, I suspect I already know what that'll be (if history is any teacher)

    It could be the worst thing in the world, and his supporters will try to downplay it

    It could be something trivial, and not worth the blowback, and the most ardent Trump haters will pretend it was on-par with Nixon.
     
  12. ThatRobGuy

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    He is a narcissist, so you're right about the first part.

    With regards to what "can't be ignored", even if that's true from the department of justice standpoint, it's certainly not required that CNN & MSNBC gloat about it and slap it on their home page.

    If the cost of "taking it to him" and "celebrating that he got his wrist slapped" is "reinvigorating a support base that was losing interest, and perhaps being just the thing he needed to win again in 2024", that's doesn't seem like a good trade off.

    I often wonder how many are still obsessed with this fantasy of Trump getting tossed in a jail cell in some sort of "revenge fantasy" moment. If that's what the aim is, they should probably come back to reality and strategize in another way.

    If they're recycling their older routine of "make sure the most extreme candidate is the most popular on the other side, because we think he'll be easier to beat", then that's at least a coherent strategy, but a risky one.

    All of this "keeping his name in the forefront" may wind up with us getting stuck with him for another 4 years.
     
  13. BPPLEE

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    That's true. As more comes out his chances keep getting better.
     
  14. wing2000

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    The press is certainly going to report the former president's reaction and statement. I'm not sure what your point is. If it's the media are giving this issue (and Trump) too much attention. Maybe.

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    Yes, have you seen the documents? Several line items noting classified documents, including those classified as Top Secret - SCI
    FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home
     
  15. cow451

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    A former defeated President being investigated for espionage is a bit hard to ignore.
     
  16. rjs330

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    And Biden would have done the same. Don't act so shocked.
     
  17. rjs330

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    Doesn't matter. Biden would have done the same. Who cares. It's all going to come out eventually.
     
  18. Aldebaran

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    That's why the ongoing string of investigations. They like the attention they get, and the fact that they divert attention away from whatever biden and his admin. is doing.
     
  19. Pommer

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    Prophesy and politics don’t play well together.
    Your extreme cynicism is pretty pathetic, actually.
     
  20. Pommer

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    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain/catch the real crime family?

    Well, when all one has is a shovel…
     
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