God do speak to his pple. but how can i know its his voice or his dream that did talk to me
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Well he does that through his word. Audibly you can't rely on it, unless it is made apparent it was him. Usually our minds trick us to think we heard people saying something, don't mistake that for God.
BUt if you want to be born again, you need to believe in the water and the spirit John 3:5, which is in 1 john 5:6
BUt if you want to be born again, you need to believe in the water and the spirit John 3:5, which is in 1 john 5:6
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Very unlikely. God gave us the bible to teach us and guide us.
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1:19-21)
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1:19-21)
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2 Pt 1:19a (1985 NJB), 19b (1971 RSV-2), 19c and "depend" (JB), 19de (NJB), 20-21a (JB), 21b (NJB): So we have confirmation of the words of the prophets. You will do well to depend on this and take it as a lamp for lighting a way through the dark, until the dawn comes and the morning star rises in your minds. At the same time, we must be most careful to remember that the interpretation of scriptural prophesy is never a matter for the individual. For no prophecy ever came from human initiative. Why? Because no prophecy ever came from man's initiative. When people spoke for God it was the Holy Spirit that moved them.
From 2 Peter and Jude, New Testament Guides -series, Jonathan Knight, Sheffield Academic Press, 1995, paperback ISBN: 1-85075-744-5: p.61
1.19-21 adds a second strand of evidence to confirm the authenticity of Christian preaching about judgement by appealing to the example of the prophets. Old Testament
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prophets are meant; contemporary Christian prophets are neither mentioned nor obviously intended here. 'Prophets' is propably a term for the whole Old Testament and thus includes all three divisions of the Hebrew Bible (not just the second). The author tells his readers to pay careful attention to these writings. He uses the image of the divine Law as a lamp (which he derived from the Psalter) and said that its witness would last until the day dawned and the morning star arose (1.19). Both of these are metaphors for the parousia. The implication is that the Scriptures held authority until the return of Jesus which they had for so long anticipated. The star analogy is an allusion to Nm 24:17 ('A star shall come out of Jacob') which was understood messianically in Judaism as well as is early Christianity.
The exegesis of 1.20 has been disuputed. Some scholars think that it refers to the origin of prophecy (and that it means 'the prophet is not speaking his own words') but the majority of commentators refer it to the interpretation of prophecy ('no prophesy is a matter of individual interpretation'). This second view seems the more likely On this reading of the verse author insists that nobody can interpret prophecy according to his or her private understanding and states that the meaning of a text must be determined by the Christian community as a whole. 2 Peter thus represents early evidence for an emerging tradition of exegesis in early Christianity which was used to counter those who were introducing alternative opinions.
The Teachers and their Fate
The author's literary strategy is to establish the need for ethical action and the authority which undergirds this demand before introducing the situation which had prompted the letter. This situation is introduced in ch. 2. The author says that just as Israel had had false prophets so the recipient church now had false teachers. The name 'prophet' is denied to these teachers as a way of reducing their authority, and this contrasts strongly with what the author said about the value of (true) prophecy in 1.20-21.
From 2 Peter and Jude, New Testament Guides -series, Jonathan Knight, Sheffield Academic Press, 1995, paperback ISBN: 1-85075-744-5: p.61
1.19-21 adds a second strand of evidence to confirm the authenticity of Christian preaching about judgement by appealing to the example of the prophets. Old Testament
p.62
prophets are meant; contemporary Christian prophets are neither mentioned nor obviously intended here. 'Prophets' is propably a term for the whole Old Testament and thus includes all three divisions of the Hebrew Bible (not just the second). The author tells his readers to pay careful attention to these writings. He uses the image of the divine Law as a lamp (which he derived from the Psalter) and said that its witness would last until the day dawned and the morning star arose (1.19). Both of these are metaphors for the parousia. The implication is that the Scriptures held authority until the return of Jesus which they had for so long anticipated. The star analogy is an allusion to Nm 24:17 ('A star shall come out of Jacob') which was understood messianically in Judaism as well as is early Christianity.
The exegesis of 1.20 has been disuputed. Some scholars think that it refers to the origin of prophecy (and that it means 'the prophet is not speaking his own words') but the majority of commentators refer it to the interpretation of prophecy ('no prophesy is a matter of individual interpretation'). This second view seems the more likely On this reading of the verse author insists that nobody can interpret prophecy according to his or her private understanding and states that the meaning of a text must be determined by the Christian community as a whole. 2 Peter thus represents early evidence for an emerging tradition of exegesis in early Christianity which was used to counter those who were introducing alternative opinions.
The Teachers and their Fate
The author's literary strategy is to establish the need for ethical action and the authority which undergirds this demand before introducing the situation which had prompted the letter. This situation is introduced in ch. 2. The author says that just as Israel had had false prophets so the recipient church now had false teachers. The name 'prophet' is denied to these teachers as a way of reducing their authority, and this contrasts strongly with what the author said about the value of (true) prophecy in 1.20-21.
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In what way may you have heard God's voice? God communes with his children in several ways and does choose to "speak" in an audible voice on occasions.
It's been about 5 years but I have heard God's voice on many occasions over the past 35 years.
I would say be very careful, because Satan can also speak to us in order to fool us. God is never wrong so if you hear a voice which gives incorrect information, it is not of God.
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I go by these. Is Christ in you? of course he is. Christ is the spirit of the Father that dwelled in Jesus. Christ is not Jesus' last name. Any thought that comes into your head that makes you less or makes this a place to attain to is not of the Father. Theives are robbers and robbers are liars and all of them act like the truth, they roar as a lion, it is the small still voice, a calm voice and not a voice of gain. Consider the voice that Adam heard walking in the garden which is metaphorical, you are the garden that the voice of the Lord walks in, but always in the cool (which means spirit), of the day, who is Christ. This was where John found himself, he was in the spirit on the Lord's day which produced a truning in him to see the truth, Christ in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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