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Virginia teen was detained and prosecuted for saying 'OINK OINK' to cop

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by SummerMadness, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. Sparagmos

    Sparagmos Well-Known Member

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    That’s not a fair response. Calling for police to be held accountable and not act like criminals doesn’t mean I hate them and want to abolish police. That’s like saying that someone criticizing politicians is an anarchist. I said that cops should be paid twice as much and you say I hate them?
     
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  2. Orthodoxjay1

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    It is not racist, certain Muslims tend to be jihadist, like Salafosts or 12-er mahdists, profiling certain types of Muslims that say travel to Iraq, Yemen, Iran and Afghanistan to certain training camps or madrassas could save lives, profiling saying a loner trenchcoat wearing white kid who posts wired stuff on facebook can save lives, profiling certain minorities if they are blaring rap music, there car reeks of marijuana, and is tatted up and may have a gun under the seat saves lives, it not racist, it saving lives of the community -white, brown, black , purple, whatever.
     
  3. Shiloh Raven

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    I don't agree with being rude and provoking like that, but I have been involved in situations where I questioned the actions of a police officer and I have called to formally complain about an officer and a trooper. My husband and I also filed a formal complaint against a police officer several years ago.
     
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  4. devin553344

    devin553344 I believe in the Resurrection

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    Ok. We should remember that no one else would do their job. And if no one would do their job what would society look like?
     
  5. Orthodoxjay1

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    Look like Anarchy, law and order must prevail for order in society to function.
     
  6. Shiloh Raven

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    Police officers can fulfill their job responsibilities without being egotistical obnoxious jerks, whom some seem to think that they are God's gift to women and arrogantly think they are above the law too.
     
  7. devin553344

    devin553344 I believe in the Resurrection

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    Interesting perspective. I'm not sure I agree with it, but OK.
     
  8. Shiloh Raven

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    You have never once encountered or witnessed a police officer who acts like an arrogant jerk?
     
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  9. Shiloh Raven

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    I've called to complain about police officers for their rude behavior toward me. I won't put up with it and let it slide. There's no reason to not hold a police officer accountable for the way they behave.
     
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  10. keith99

    keith99 sola dosis facit venenum

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    The police will not be there and there are several cases in law that have decided they have no obligation to protect you.

    When I had the puppies the only thing the police might have done is injure or kill my friends who were protecting me.

    Might have because police here, especially in the suburbs are pretty good the vast majority of the time. When the puppies got out once teh police were (incorrectly) the ones called. Unlike some areas they acted well and found their biggest problem was not getting paw prints on their uniforms or having their faces licked.

    I have definitely noticed that police are far politer as I got older. I don't recall any rude or unprofessional conduct by an officer after I turned 30 or so. Not the case before that where a good 1/4 of any contact the officer was at best rude. That is not to say all officers treat the young badly.
     
  11. keith99

    keith99 sola dosis facit venenum

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    I'm not sure what department started it but some are smart enough to turn pig on its head.

    Pride
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    And as a Prop I don't think of piggy as an insult.
     
  12. devin553344

    devin553344 I believe in the Resurrection

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    Yes I have but I love them. And have forgiveness for them. Does that make sense what I say? here, they say "they" love you:
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  13. SummerMadness

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    It's racism. You're simply putting lipstick on a pig.

    In the example you gave, you pointed to behaviors (e.g., going to an extremist training camp, writing threatening post on social media, etc.), which has nothing to do with race. Your last example is simply racist: rap music and tattoos != gun under seat. The race of a person has nothing to do with suspicious behavior. A white person or a black person blaring rap music in their car should be left alone unless they are violating a noise ordinance; that music is not indicative of them having weapons. And the statistics bear this out:

    Police are searching black drivers more often, but finding more illegal stuff with white drivers
    At this stage, repeating the same racist arguments suggests that the data is simply ignored if it does not align with your preconceived notions.
     
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  14. Shiloh Raven

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    There's no reason to put up with a police officer acting like a jerk and there's no reason to not hold that officer personally accountable for their obnoxious behavior. They need to have their ego knocked down a few notches and reminded that the police are public servants and aren't above the law.
     
  15. devin553344

    devin553344 I believe in the Resurrection

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    Agreed, but I can't be their judge. God commands us not to judge: Matthew 7:1-2
     
  16. Sparagmos

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    Sure, in a police state.
     
  17. hedrick

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    Yes, but when there are widespread problems in an area, there's reason to suspect that it's not a problem with the individual police but with training and policies.
     
  18. Shiloh Raven

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    "Judge not" is one of the most overused clichés in discussions with some Christians because it almost always taken out of context. How can we discern good fruit from bad fruit without judging? How can we discern good people from bad people without judging? We have to judge and we do judge. We also distinguish good from evil by judging. Christians are commanded to make a righteous judgment.
     
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  19. Sparagmos

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    Well with that line of reasoning we should abolish the criminal justice system, because it judges people.
     
  20. devin553344

    devin553344 I believe in the Resurrection

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    Yes I see your point. You can say anything you want. So words dont harm? James 3:5
     
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