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Virginia prosecutor says Black motorist should never have been pulled over, asks for investigation

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by Johnboy60, May 11, 2021.

  1. Johnboy60

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  2. Landon Caeli

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    Nobody asks someone to step out of the vehicle because a taillight is out. Also, none of the things she did are signs of "drunk driving"... This is why cops need retraining, and need to start doing real police work, and stop scraping the bottom of the barrel of potentials and petty nonsense.
     
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  3. RaymondG

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    I have to say, I still do not understand why people resist. I know it is wrong to be getting pulled over like this....but like she said, she could have been killed. It is best to just do what it demanded, and have a better chance to live another day..... The resisting did not help her at all, and possibly made a bad situation worse.
     
  4. SummerMadness

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    Isn't it more important to focus on the fact that she should never have been stopped? Part of the "resistance" is the fact that police misconduct has occurred before with little reform, placing citizens in a dangerous situation with police officers. The real issue is government abuse, that should be the focus, not whether an innocent person protested their detainment.
     
  5. RaymondG

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    I understand the real issue. I just want us to remain alive while we fight these issues.
     
  6. keith99

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    The last time I was stopped by a police officer it was for a taillight being out. He walked up to the side of my car and asked how I was doing. I said I was doing better a couple of minutes ago. Seems I get an officer who gets it. No one likes being stopped. He told me about teh light being out and told me to get kit fixed. He did not even issue a fix it ticket. Those are a real pain, you ahve to fix it and get it inspected. I do not rememeber the time requirement for a fix it ticket, at least a couple of weeks. The officer being nice worked. Fixed the next day.

    BTW I drilled down in the and Virginia Law has actually been changed. Officers may NOT stop a car for a taillight being out. I disagree with that as they present a danger, one that eventually grows. One brakelight out, not a big deal. When all of them are out teh next hard stop can turn into a crash.

    The law change also makes any evidence obtained, even evidence obtained with the consent of the mototrist inadmissable. It looks like Virginia has a problem.
     
  7. Goonie

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    So no taking the numberplate and sending the owner a ticket to get it fixed?
     
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  8. dqhall

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    I was on a jury where a white man had been arrested for arguing with a police officer over the arrest of his son. We were not told what the son had done only that he had a criminal record from a previous offense. The father tried to pull away from the arresting officer and was taken down. He claimed unprovable injury that may have occurred when he was taken down. The plaintiff was asking for about $150,000. After listening to two days of arguments we refused to give the plaintiff any money.
     
  9. SummerMadness

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    My experience has not been as smooth. Of the times I've been stopped for a taillight being out, it was out only once. All the other times were police officers fishing to find some other reason to justify their stop. I remember thanking an officer once and then asking him which light was put, he no idea. Besides being infuriating, it's also just plain scary.

    That's my exact sentiment, I think there needs to be more by mail citations and warnings.
     
  10. keith99

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    I agree for fix it issues.

    For actual driving issues there are a couple of problems. First knowing the actual driver. That one has problems both ways. How can the state convict an individual if there is no way to prove who was driving. Rather important to assign the points to the right driver for dangerous acts.

    And an innocent driver has a problem. Do you remember the details of every second of your driving from 2 weeks to 2 months ago? Rather hard to mount a defense given that disadvantage.

    And what about drivers who have ignored mail citations? Can that become a reason to stop them?

    Also one thing I have noticed, as I got older police got more respectful. Not all the time. There were a couple of very cool officers when I was young. But all the jerk officer interactions I can remember were from before I turned 30.
     
  11. Landon Caeli

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    When I get pulled over, I get body tremors. It is definitely scary. Typically, when I see an officer on the road, I turn the first chance I can to get away, so long as it doesn’t seem "suspicious".

    Even growing up, as a kid my father would get angry if we looked out the window at a police officer on the roadway, so as to draw any kind of attention.. Police are not our "friends"... They're a real danger.
     
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