Vene debate

[GentleChristianMommy]

I'll let him lay his groundwork first.

 

[Vene]

Oh no, you're the one who is claiming that evolutionary theory is fundamentally racist. Provide evidence for your claims. I'm not going to let you shift the burden of proof.

 

[GentleChristianMommy]

Pointform (Didn't expect to have to do it so soon)
-Racism is: "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race" (Merriam-Webster)
-Evolution states that traits are passed on because they are superior.
-Thus, if evolution is true, some races are bound to be superior to others in certain respects.
-A guy filled skulls with mustard
-Hitler was an evolutionist.
-Darwin was a racist.

 

[Vene]

Pointform (Didn't expect to have to do it so soon)
-Racism is: "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race" (Merriam-Webster)

No arguments. This definition works with me.

-Evolution states that traits are passed on because they are superior.

I wouldn't use the term superior. Traits are passed down because they lead to better survivability. It's hard to the dead to reproduce.

[quote-Thus, if evolution is true, some races are bound to be superior to others in certain respects. [/quote]
The only difference between the races is skin color (melanin content). Nothing about superiority. Only that those with less melanin get sunburns easier.

-A guy filled skulls with mustard

Huh? I don't understand. I never heard of this, nor do I understand what it has to do with either evolution or racism.

-Hitler was an evolutionist.

Assuming this is true: Hitler also thought that 1+1=2. Therefore addition is racist.
And I have a feeling you're thinking of social darwinism, which is pseudoscience and based on a faulty understanding of evolution.

-Darwin was a racist.

Assuming this is true: Good thing that biologists don't believe in the inerrant word of Darwin. It's the theory that matters. Please show how the theory makes a racist statement.

 

[GentleChristianMommy]

I wouldn't use the term superior. Traits are passed down because they lead to better survivability. It's hard to the dead to reproduce.

Different term, same idea.

 

[Vene]

Different term, same idea.

Ecxcept for skin color doesn't effect survivability. It's as meaningless as hair color (and controlled by the same chemical).

 

[Vene]

Actually, timesonline has a ridiculous article about how blond cave women were at a sexual advantage.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article735078.ece

The hair color analogy was just an example. I don't see people being hair-colorists. And life in prehistoric times in not like life today. There are (roughly) equal numbers of both men and women.

 

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