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Vatican official exhorts Catholics to set aside Sundays for God and rest
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Amen, it's all about loving obedience.
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If a Christian, sincere in his belief that killing Moslems was ok, would God punish or reward that person for disobeying the Commandments? If the killing was sanctioned by the Pope or any other spiritual leader, would it make it ok in the eyes of God?
Like K4C said, God winks in our times of ignorance and all sins can be forgiven, but to willfully and unrepentently transgress God's command will end in destruction.
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ok, it is about loveing obedience
so, you are saying that if a Christian is sincere in his belief that Sunday should be the day of rest for those who follor Jesus Christ
God will punish that person for resting on sunday and working on saturday?
in other words If you kno the Sabbath is the True day of Worship and one choose to follow man by worshipin on sunday its almost similar to the sons of aaron who died because they offered strange fire to God or Cain who offered his best fruits but it was not what God had ask
ok, it is about loveing obedience
so, you are saying that if a Christian is sincere in his belief that Sunday should be the day of rest for those who follor Jesus Christ
God will punish that person for resting on sunday and working on saturday?
in other words If you kno the Sabbath is the True day of Worship and one choose to follow man by worshipin on sunday its almost similar to the sons of aaron who died because they offered strange fire to God or Cain who offered his best fruits but it was not what God had ask
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If one truly loves God and has His Spirit living in them they will have a desire to obey God once truth comes in. Now don't get me wrong, sometimes it's hard obeying God because of family, friends and even our own selves struggle with the will of God at times. Right now God says where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. God is working in His people but there will come an end of time where people will be as they are.
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Since the link didn't carry over I figured I'd grab it for you
Vatican official exhorts Catholics to set aside Sundays for God and rest :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)
Vatican official exhorts Catholics to set aside Sundays for God and rest :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)
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Not quite sure what this post had to do with the Vatican pushing a Sunday observance... maybe it was meant for the wine debate thread.
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So your interpretation of the Vatican advocating a forced Sunday rest is that it has to do with Jesus' miracle at Cana and the institution of marraige?
I'm mising something here, can you better tie the two together for me? Thanx...
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Thank you Terry...
Sister White says that we will come to a greater understanding of the Sabbath and it's importance as the latter rain is poured out. We must have this to be able to effectively communicate to the world the neccessity of obeying this precept.
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We are only doing what the Bible teaches...
My worth is in knowing that I am a son of God and that He is my ever loving Father... nothing else.
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Um, my brother, I started a Thread in the GT area called European Sunday Alliance, and I mentioned this issue. You're more then welcome to debate the issue there if you'd like.
This issue being posted here is no different then any issue that a Catholic may take to their own board. Sometimes you just simply get tired of fighting, and other times you just have something you want to share with people you know aren't going to bite your head off.
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Terry,
I read your comments on the marriage at Cana and I appreciate why you posted it. We should all take a dynamic look at God's word and teach it's lessons, rather than just accept what others have to say without biblical support.
Yes, the original poster (and SDA) wants to put a spotlight on the catholic church rather than the word of God to support their reason of keeping the sabbath as the day to rest and worship.
The word of God is not silent about days chosen to honor God. Text proves that it's a personal choice between a man and God. Claiming to keep Sabbath is really a separate issue to worshipping God.
Religion alway says different from God's word....................
4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone.
8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.
I read your comments on the marriage at Cana and I appreciate why you posted it.
We should all take a dynamic look at God's word and teach it's lessons, rather than just accept what others have to say without biblical support. Yes, the original poster (and SDA) wants to put a spotlight on the catholic church rather than the word of God to support their reason of keeping the sabbath as the day to rest and worship.
The word of God is not silent about days chosen to honor God. Text proves that it's a personal choice between a man and God. Claiming to keep Sabbath is really a separate issue to worshipping God.
Religion alway says different from God's word....................
4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone.
8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.
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Terry,
I read your comments on the marriage at Cana and I appreciate why you posted it.
Yes, the original poster (and SDA) wants to put a spotlight on the catholic church rather than the word of God to support their reason of keeping the sabbath as the day to rest and worship.
The word of God is not silent about days chosen to honor God. Text proves that it's a personal choice between a man and God. Claiming to keep Sabbath is really a separate is to worshipping God.
Religion alway says different from God's word....................
4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone.
8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.
God makes a distinction between the sabbaths pertaining to the shadows and the seventh day, which He protected by Law. One came as a result of sin while the other was instituted before sin.
God has given gifts to His people such as preaching and teaching. What if a pastor studied all week to preach on the Sabbath only to find the church empty because your family chooses to gather on Thursday, my family chooses Monday, our neighbors choose Tuesday, my boss says Wednesday is the day, the government says Sunday so as a result, no one is there on the day God protected by Law for the preacher to preach and teach.
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So, what did you expect whe you stepped into the Traditional SDA forum? You are not even the Progressive SDA Forum where some variance can and often does occur. I'm with Stryder, I am sure if you stepped into the Catholic, Methodist. Baptist, JW, etc. forums you would find the same going on. These particular forums and the rules that guide them are made for those of like belief to discuss said beliefs.
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