So, you agree with Zacharia Sitchin on this matter. What about those verses convinces you that what happened with Ezekiel and Elijah was a UFO? Who/what is "Metatron?"
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Vatican: It's OK to Beleive in Aliens
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To observe the wonders of God's creation?Um, has anyone explained WHY the RCC Vatican even has an observatory?
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Catholic... Faith, Hope and the greatest is LOVE
Who cares why he has an observatory. I'm jealous. I wish that I had one. I love looking up to the stars. They are amazing and bright and beautiful and God created them so nicely. I would love to have my own observatory... so much. If I won the lottery, I would buy me one... (but I don't play the lottery and so, I doubt that I will ever win. LOL )
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It's true that believing that the universe may
contain alien life does not contradict a faith in
God. How does one feel that it would?
It's true that in the vastness of the universe there
could be other forms of intelligent life created by
God. Why would one think that there couldn't be?
While we can't rule out that intelligent life may
have been created by God on other planets in the
universe, that doesn't mean that all other forms of
intelligent life in the universe are necessarily our
"brothers" in the Christian sense of being fellow
children of God, for not even all humans on this
earth are our "brothers" in the Christian sense of
being fellow children of God through faith in Jesus:
John 8:42 ...Jesus said unto them, If God were your
Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and
came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent
me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because
ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there
is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father
of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the
truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore
hear them not, because ye are not of God.
There could be fallen, sinful creatures on other
planets in this universe who have spiritually become
the children of Satan just as much as most humans on
this earth are sinful and so have spiritually become
the children of Satan:
1 John 3:8 ...He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this
purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might
destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for
his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because
he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the
children of the devil: whosoever doeth not
righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth
not his brother.
So we can believe in the existence of aliens without
having to believe that they all must be good aliens.
It's true that ruling out the existence of aliens
would be putting limits on God's creative freedom.
Why would one think that it wouldn't be?
There really aren't necessarily any theological
implications of the existence of alien life. God
could have the same relation to all alien life that
He has to all life on this earth: He could be the
Creator of all alien life just as He is the Creator
of all life on this earth, and He could have given
free will to all intelligent alien life just as He
has given free will to all intelligent life on this
earth, so that there could be both sinful, rebellious
alien intelligent life and righteous, obedient alien
intelligent life, just as there are both sinful,
rebellious humans on this earth and righteous,
obedient humans on this earth.
If there should ever be a public alien visitation to
this earth in the future, we will need to determine
whether they are evil aliens who are in rebellion
against God or righteous aliens who are obedient to
God.
How will we know? The same way that we know whether
a regular human that we meet on this earth is an evil
human who is in rebellion against God or a righteous
human who is obedient to God: Do they believe that
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, in the flesh,
and do they obey Him as their Lord, or do they deny
that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, in the
flesh, and refuse to obey Him as their Lord?
1 John 2:22 ...Who is a liar but he that denieth that
Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the
Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the
Father also.
John 3:36 ...He that believeth on the Son hath
everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son
shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on
him.
1 John 4:3 ...And every spirit that confesseth not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist ...
2 John 1:7 ...For many deceivers are entered into the
world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in
the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Philippians 2:10 ... at the name of Jesus every knee
should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth,
and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus
Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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If there should ever be a public alien visitation to
the earth in the future, we will know if they are
demonic by what they teach, just as we know which
humans are demonic by what they teach. Do they teach
that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, in the flesh, died
on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead on
the third day, or do they deny the gospel of Christ
and try to replace it with some other, demonic
teachings?
1 Timothy 4:1 ... the Spirit speaketh expressly, that
in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils ...
1 Corinthians 15:1 ... brethren, I declare unto you
the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye
have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory
what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in
vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I
also received, how that Christ died for our sins
according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day according to the scriptures ...
Galatians 1:4 ...Who gave himself for our sins, that
he might deliver us from this present evil world,
according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that
called you into the grace of Christ unto another
gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that
trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have
received, let him be accursed.
Here "an angel from heaven" would include not only a
literal angel but any "messenger from the sky",
including evil aliens who could descend from the sky
with demonic teachings which contradict the gospel of
Christ.
We Christians will have to choose to reject any such
false alien teachings just as we have to choose to
reject any human teachings which contradict the gospel
of Christ:
2 Corinthians 11:3 ...But I fear, lest by any means,
as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so
your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom
we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit,
which ye have not received, or another gospel, which
ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him ...
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of
righteousness ...
Evil aliens could visit the earth claiming that they
are "messengers of Christ" sent down from heaven to
bring humanity "to the next level of spirituality and
power". But they could preach things which directly
contradict what the Bible preaches.
In what way could they preach "another Jesus"? They
could claim that Jesus was just an ordinary human and
not the Christ, and that the divine Spirit of Christ
merely indwelt Jesus temporarily like wine filling
a glass, so that Christ Himself never became flesh
(cf. 1 John 4:3).
In what way could they preach "another spirit"? They
could claim that Lucifer is the divine Spirit of
Christ. They could say that even the Bible shows that
Lucifer is the morning star (Isaiah 14:12) and that
Christ is the morning star (Revelation 22:16), so
that Lucifer is Christ.
The truth is that Lucifer fell from his office of
morning star (Isaiah 14:12) and became Satan (Luke
10:18). Jesus then took over the office of morning
star (Revelation 22:16).
In what way could evil aliens preach "another
gospel"? They could claim that Jesus didn't really
die on the cross or rise from the dead, but that he
only seemed dead before Lucifer entered the tomb
where Jesus' comatose body lay and transformed it by
his power into an immortal body.
They could claim that there was no need for Jesus to
die on the cross for our sins because there's no such
thing as "sin", that Lucifer allows us to do anything
we want without any guilt so long as we worship him
as God.
Their "gospel" could be that now Lucifer Christ
himself has descended to earth to show mankind the
way into immortality, if mankind will only worship
him and his human "Son" (the Antichrist) as God.
How could Lucifer be "transformed into an angel of
light"? He could descend in a beautiful alien
spaceship glowing with lights, which could land in the
park next to the Eiffel Tower in Paris. A huge door in
the spaceship could open and Lucifer could step out
of it not as an ugly satyr-like creature with horns
and cloven hooves and a pitchfork, but in his true
dragon form:
Revelation 12:3 ... behold a great red dragon, having
seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his
heads.
Instead of been covered by dark and dingy scales and
surrounded by a cloud of darkness, he could make his
scales appear luminescent-red like beautiful rubies,
and he could surround himself with a Shekinah-like
cloud of glorious light. All seven of his heads could
speak at once and in unison with a deep and awesome
voice like the voice of God. Instead of carrying a
pitchfork he could carry a caduceus, a huge staff with
entwined living serpents which he could touch sick
people with and heal them instantly, and even raise
people from the dead with it.
He could present himself as very beneficent toward
mankind, showing mankind how to recover from a
nuclear war and an asteroid strike which could have
happened before his coming to the earth to "save" it.
Lucifer will give all of his power to a single human
(the Antichrist), whom he could call his "divine Son",
who will have a miracle-working human "Prophet" (the
False Prophet) who will perform amazing miracles which
will convince the world that the dragon Lucifer and
his "Son" (the Antichrist, the beast) really are God.
Revelation 13:4 ...And they worshipped the dragon
which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped
the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is
able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great
things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him
to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God,
to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them
that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the
saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him
over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship
him, whose names are not written in the book of life
of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into
captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be
killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the
faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the
earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake
as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast
before him, and causeth the earth and them which
dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly
wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire
come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of
men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the
means of those miracles which he had power to do in
the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on
the earth, that they should make an image to the
beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of
the beast, that the image of the beast should both
speak, and cause that as many as would not worship
the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and
poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right
hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that
had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number
of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding
count the number of the beast: for it is the number
of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore
and six.
Revelation 19:20 ... the false prophet that wrought
miracles before him, with which he deceived them that
had received the mark of the beast, and them that
worshipped his image.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 ...Even him, whose coming is
after the working of Satan with all power and signs
and lying wonders ...
2 Thessalonians 2:3 ... that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is
called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God
sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he
is God.
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There are about 100 billion stars in our galaxy, and
about 100 billion other galaxies each with about 100
billion stars. How many stars has SETI been able to
check?
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Eleven pages about "aliens don't destroy God?"
I'm not sure why that is such a ridiculous theological question for a priest to ponder... Especially because many priests and religious just like gnaw on this kind of bone. Father Mitch Pacwa (Roman Catholic) on EWTN recently displayed his copy of the Book of Mormon, which he has studied, studied the history of, and read several times. How many times, then, do you think he's read the Bible... And this priest apparently is interested in conspiracy theory and alien... Whooo hooo! The perfect person to tell us what the Bible might say about aliens.
The Vatican has all kinds of educational stuff, yes, including an observatory. And, yes, Galileo was mistreated for... something or other, it is rather hard to tell exactly why he was imprisoned in an ambassador's estate (from blaming him for were he was wrong, to his using his position to teach theology, to blaming him for where he was right).
The Roman Catholic Church places its hope in formation, because illuminating the ignorant, is like converting (?conversioning?) them... whether it be with theology or science.
I'm not sure why that is such a ridiculous theological question for a priest to ponder... Especially because many priests and religious just like gnaw on this kind of bone. Father Mitch Pacwa (Roman Catholic) on EWTN recently displayed his copy of the Book of Mormon, which he has studied, studied the history of, and read several times. How many times, then, do you think he's read the Bible... And this priest apparently is interested in conspiracy theory and alien... Whooo hooo! The perfect person to tell us what the Bible might say about aliens.
The Vatican has all kinds of educational stuff, yes, including an observatory. And, yes, Galileo was mistreated for... something or other, it is rather hard to tell exactly why he was imprisoned in an ambassador's estate (from blaming him for were he was wrong, to his using his position to teach theology, to blaming him for where he was right).
The Roman Catholic Church places its hope in formation, because illuminating the ignorant, is like converting (?conversioning?) them... whether it be with theology or science.
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Before His death, Jesus was sent only to Israel:
Matthew 15:24 ...I am not sent but unto the lost
sheep of the house of Israel.
But He foretold that He would eventually save other
people as well:
John 10:16 ...And other sheep I have, which are not
of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall
hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one
shepherd.
After His resurrection, Jesus commanded that His
gospel be preached to all of mankind:
Mark 16:15 ...Go ye into all the world, and preach
the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Matthew 28:19 ...Go ye therefore, and teach all
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I
have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.
That Jesus would bring salvation to the Gentiles as
well as the Jews was foretold in the Old Testament:
Isaiah 49:6 ...It is a light thing that thou
shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of
Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will
also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that
thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the
earth.
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Regarding Islam, it claims that the Koran was revealed
to Muhammad by an angel from heaven, and the Koran
denies the gospel of Christ: it denies that Jesus is
the Son of God (cf. 1 John 2:23, John 3:36) and denies
that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from
the dead on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). So
Islam is one fulfillment of Galatians 1:6-9. A future
visitation of evil "aliens" to the earth could become
another fulfillment of Galatians 1:6-9, as they could
present themselves as "angels from heaven" as they
teach doctrines which, like Islam, will directly
contradict the most important parts of the gospel of
Christ.
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The Church is going to go through the tribulation
(Revelation 14:12-13), so the Church will see any
"alien" visitation to the earth during the
tribulation. The "aliens" could say they've come to
"save" the earth from the effects of a nuclear war
and asteroid strike which could have previously
occurred during the tribulation.
The rapture won't be until after the tribulation, at
the second coming (Matthew 24:29-31). Jesus' coming
to gather together the Church must destroy the
Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:1-8), and no doubt any
evil "aliens" which may have come to the earth.
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UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object". Unless we can
identify what every flying object was that people have
seen and wondered what it was, then we have to believe
in unidentified flying objects.
But nobody has to believe that any unidentified
flying object had to have come from another planet,
for there's never been any proof of that.
At the same time, there's never been any proof that
every unidentified flying object didn't come from
another planet.
There is nothing in the Bible that would rule out
UFOs from other planets, or that could be used to
prove that they really do come to the earth.
So people are pretty much left to their own
inclination whether or not they want to believe in
UFOs from other planets.
Some people claim to have actually seen aliens and
even been taken on board their spaceships and "probed"
and what not, but there's never been any proof that
any such "abduction" account really happened and
isn't a hoax, or wasn't just a psychotic
hallucination or a very vivid nightmare.
At the same time, there's never been any proof that
every such "abduction" account didn't really happen.
There is nothing in the Bible that would rule out
such alien abductions, or that could be used to prove
they really happen.
So people are pretty much left to their own
inclination whether or not they want to believe in
alien "abductions".
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It's possible that God created other intelligent life
forms on other planets which never fell into sin, but
chose to remain obedient to God. If that is the case,
then they wouldn't need redemption, just as the
unfallen angels don't need redemption.
Maybe what we call unfallen "angels" are unfallen
aliens, while the fallen "angels" are fallen aliens.
If human "messengers" can be called "angels" in the
Bible ("aggelos" in the Greek, Luke 7:24 and Luke
9:52), then why couldn't messenger-aliens be called
"angels"?
Christ's human incarnation and sacrifice was indeed a
unique and unrepeatable event (Hebrews 10:12-18).
If God showed mercy to fallen humans, then there is
no reason that He wouldn't show mercy to fallen
aliens as well. Their redemption could involve Christ
incarnating as one of them on their planet and dying
for them on their planet. Just as with humans, some
aliens on a planet could accept that redemption while
others on the same planet reject it, so that there
could be both "good" and "bad" aliens from the same
planet. That is, we might not be able to say "Oh,
that type of alien is evil while this other type of
alien is good" without being wrong in the case of
many individual aliens; we could become guilty of
"alien racism".
That's right. So long as we don't try to claim that
God can't miraculously create something instantly and
that He must always employ natural evolutionary
processes, then miraculous-creation and evolution can
co-exist as two different ways in which God can bring
new species into existence.
It's not wrong to expect a scientific explanation
from the Bible. Nothing that the Bible teaches
contradicts any proven fact of science. Science has
never proven that God doesn't exist, or that He can't
miraculously create things instantly, or that He
didn't set up the laws of nature to work toward
evolution.
The Bible may not even start its account of creation
until some 10 billion years after the Big Bang.
Genesis 1:1 could refer only to God's miraculous
creation of the earth and its atmosphere some
5 billion years ago. He could then have let natural
evolutionary processes, along with His occasional
help (See "Punctuated Equilibria"), develop many of
the species in the fossil record over the last
billion years or so.
Then a terrible cataclysm could have struck the earth
which rendered all evolved (and miraculously-created)
life extinct. This could be the state of the earth
described in Genesis 1:2.
Then God could have miraculously restored life to the
earth over a period of six literal days. He could have
also created a new form of life, one which had not
existed on the earth before: homo sapiens sapiens,
which suddenly appeared out of nowhere about 40,000
years ago. This six-day restoration of the earth
could be described in Genesis 1:3-2:4.
Then, about 6,000 years ago, God miraculously created
Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden and its animals
in a local area of uninhabited desert land. This is
described in Genesis 2:5-25.
Romans 8:19 ...For the earnest expectation of the
creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons
of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not
willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected
the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be
delivered from the bondage of corruption into the
glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and
travaileth in pain together until now.
This could refer to only the creation of the earth,
for angels are part of the creation of heaven, and
not all of the angels of heaven fell, so not all of
the angels of heaven need redemption. And "heaven"
includes outer space where the stars reside (Isaiah
13:10), so the unfallen "angels" (messengers) of
heaven could include unfallen aliens of outer space.
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Because astronomy has revealed to us that our sun is
just one star among 100 billion times 100 billion
other stars in the universe, it indeed helps us to
put our lives in the right perspective, just as
simply staring up into the night sky can:
Psalms 8:3 ...When I consider thy heavens, the work
of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou
hast ordained;
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? ...
We are so utterly infinitesimal that all of humanity
together is worth less than nothing compared with
God:
Isaiah 40:15 ...Behold, the nations are as a drop of
a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the
balance ...
17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they
are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Yet how proud man is! He struts about upon this
little speck of dust we call earth in total rebellion
against God, even denying His existence, whether in
word or in actions (Titus 1:16). Man is like some
bacteria in a petri dish denying the existence of the
scientist looking down at it through a microscope,
because it "can't see" the scientist and "there's no
proof that any scientist exists". How pathetic.
The reason science has no answer to "What caused the
Big Bang?" and "Where did the Big Bang singularity
come from?" is because science refuses to accept the
existence of spirit:
Ecclesiastes 11:5 ...As thou knowest not what is the
way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the
womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest
not the works of God who maketh all.
Physicists are looking for the Grand Unifying
Principle which underlies all forces and particles,
not realizing that it is the Divine Spirit of Jesus
Himself, who created all things and keeps everything
in existence:
John 1:3 ...All things were made by him; and without
him was not any thing made that was made.
Colossians 1:16 ...For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things
were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things
consist.
Acts 17:28 ...For in him we live, and move, and have
our being ...
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If evil "aliens" visit the earth publicly in the
future, they could bring with them an advanced
"spiritual science" which includes not only
explanations of all physical forces and substances
but all spiritual forces and substances as well.
They could say that spirit has the same relation to
energy as energy has to matter, so that just as E=MC2
(superscript 2), so S=EC2 (superscript 2), and they
could teach mankind how to employ "spiritual powers".
All of this could be true, but then the evil "aliens"
could add the lie that the God of the Bible, YHWH/
Jesus, isn't the source of spirit, but that Lucifer is,
and that mankind will only be able to enter into its
"true and immortal destiny" by rejecting YHWH and the
divinity of Jesus and worshipping Lucifer and his
human "Son" (the Antichrist) as God.
While it's true that Jesus remains fully human
(1 Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 2:17, 8:1), He also remains
fully God (John 10:30, 20:28) at the same time, and
so there is no limit to His ability to remain in
other alien forms at the same time, forms which He
could have taken on as part of His redemption of
those aliens.
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Romans 3:23 ... all have sinned ...
Romans 5:12 ... by one man sin entered into the
world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon
all men, for that all have sinned ...
This could refer only to all humans, for the unfallen
angels haven't sinned. Likewise, there could be
unfallen aliens who haven't sinned.
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CARO CARDO SALUTIS
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Vatican ObservatoryUm, has anyone explained WHY the RCC Vatican even has an observatory?
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It's possible that God made the universe so that
faster-than-light travel is impossible for anything
made up of physical matter. Even velocities
approaching the speed of light become impractical,
for the mass of a spaceship increases with its
velocity so that an impractical amount of energy would
be required to accelerate a spaceship to a velocity
even close to the speed of light. This means that it
could take too long to travel from one star to
another, perhaps thousands of years.
If this is the case, then what we call "aliens" could
be creatures which evolved or were miraculously
created on this earth during past civilization-
cycles.
Our current civilization-cycle began only about 6,000
years ago with the miraculous creation of Adam, and
it will end in about a thousand years at the end of
the millennium, when the surface of the earth will
be burned up by God and every trace of our
civilization erased:
2 Peter 3:10 ...the earth also and the works that
are therein shall be burned up.
This could have happened to past civilization-
cycles, so that we haven't found any trace of them
even though they could have flourished for thousands
of years during past ages and developed all of the
technology we have today, and even much more advanced
technology which we haven't even dreamed of yet.
The Bible says that we aren't to think that we have
invented anything new, but that everything we've
invented has already existed on the earth in the
past and was forgotten, just as everything that we
have invented and will invent will be forgotten in
future civilization-cycles on the earth:
Ecclesiastes 1:9 ...The thing that hath been, it is
that which shall be; and that which is done is that
which shall be done: and there is no new thing under
the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See,
this is new? it hath been already of old time, which
was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither
shall there be any remembrance of things that are to
come with those that shall come after.
In past civilization-cycles, intelligent creatures
could have fallen into sin like man did, and some
of them could have subsequently been redeemed and
become like the angels of heaven (cf. Matthew 22:30,
Luke 20:36) while others rejected redemption and so
were damned by God and forced by God to go down into
hell, down into caverns deep within the crust of the
earth.
At one point during the coming tribulation, strange
locust-like creatures will come up from hell and
torment mankind (Revelation 9). The world could
say, a la the X-files, that they must be "aliens"
which had come to the earth in some past age and
buried their spaceships deep within the earth's
crust and gone into a dormant state, only to be
awakened by an asteroid striking the earth during
the tribulation. In fact, they could be creatures
which evolved or were miraculously created on the
the earth during some past age, and so not "aliens"
at all, despite their strange appearance.
Even the reptilian Lucifer (Revelation 12:9, Job
41:15-34) could have evolved or been miraculously
created on the earth during the reptilian age which
climaxed with the huge dinosaurs. He could basically
be an intelligent dinosaur, the king of a race of
reptilian creatures which developed advanced
"spiritual technologies", only to subsequently rebel
against God and have their civilization wiped out by
God, who could have left only their bones behind for
men to dig up and ponder.
God could have permitted the unfallen Lucifer and
some his unfallen reptilian followers to remain alive,
hidden in the deep oceans (Job 41:31-32, Isaiah 27:1)
and in caverns deep within the earth's crust, in
order to serve as beneficent angelic guardians over
subsequent civilization-cycles, including the human
cycle which began with Eden (Ezekiel 28:13-14). It is
at the point of Eden when Lucifer and his reptilian
followers could have fallen into rebellion (Ezekiel
28:15), thinking that they wanted to go in heaven
instead of remaining on the earth (Isaiah 14:12-14)
babysitting stupid humans, whom they subsequently
succeeded in bringing into rebellion against God as
well.
Lucifer could explain all of this to mankind in the
future from his own perspective. He and his reptilian
followers could initially make it appear as if they
are aliens descending in spaceships from another
planet to "save" the earth during the tribulation, only
to subsequently explain that their spaceships have
always resided on the earth, hidden deep within the
oceans and the earth's crust, and that they are the
true "Lords of the earth" and mankind is just a recent
tenant of their planet and must serve them.
They could offer mankind the option of "joining" them
physically by forming hybrid reptilian-human beings,
giants (cf. Genesis 6:2,4), who could form an elite
race to rule the earth. The reptilians and the
reptilian-human hybrids could by their "spiritual"
powers make themselves appear fully human to humans,
while they could appear in their true forms when
among themselves.
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Genesis 1:26 ...And God said, Let us make man in our
image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the
earth.
Genesis 2:19 ...And out of the ground the LORD God
formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of
the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he
would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every
living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl
of the air, and to every beast of the field ...
Here the "fowl" of the air or sky refers to the birds
on this earth, just as the other creatures are those
created by God on this earth, and so they wouldn't
include any aliens created by God on other planets.
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Aliens ? I think not.. Angels maybe but which ones I don't know.. We know that there is war in the heavenlies. People on other planets? I doubt it.. Or shall we say creatures. Tee hee.
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Isn't it sad that the Catholic Church wanted to keep the world believing that the sun and stars revolved around the earth?
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Do we have to be superstitious? Most, if not all, UFOs are airplanes or other boringly ordinary things.
There's no decent evidence that there's ever been one single abduction at all.
"Aliens" my old aunt Bertha. The only aliens here commonly come from Mexico, and most of 'em are good Catholics.
If God wanted to create folks on other planets, then He did, punto. And whether He did or not, anyone's opinion on whether He should have or not is so much hot air. In any case, superstition has no place in the Christian faith.
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