Van Mural of Plane Diving Towards Towers on 9/11

[RealDealNeverstop]

According to recordings of police communications on 9/11 they stopped a van in New York City that had a painting of a remote control plane diving towards the towers. After the occupants were removed from the van and detained by police, it exploded. Can anyone even begin to offer a plausible explanation?

Http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/the-911-mural-van-rabbit-hole-or-memory-hole/

Please note the picture of a van with a mural in the link is obviously a mock-up.

 

[Incariol]

According to recordings of police communications on 9/11 they stopped a van in New York City that had a painting of a remote control plane diving towards the towers. After the occupants were removed from the van and detained by police, it exploded. Can anyone even begin to offer a plausible explanation?

Http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/the-911-mural-van-rabbit-hole-or-memory-hole/

Please note the picture of a van with a mural in the link is obviously a mock-up.

Your blog is not a reliable news source.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Your blog is not a reliable news source.

According to? It has a link to the actual recording of the police communications. Or do you think we can only start threads with msm links? As if the only events that have happened are those covered by the msm? The incident is also covered in an MTI report, albeit a conflicting conclusion from the cops who were actually there.

 

[oldbetang]

According to recordings of police communications on 9/11 they stopped a van in New York City that had a painting of a remote control plane diving towards the towers. After the occupants were removed from the van and detained by police, it exploded. Can anyone even begin to offer a plausible explanation?

Http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/the-911-mural-van-rabbit-hole-or-memory-hole/

Please note the picture of a van with a mural in the link is obviously a mock-up.

It exploded but nobody in the neighborhood heard it or felt it? It must have been the same silent explosive that they used in the Trade Towers

 

[oldbetang]

More proof that the Trade towers were demolished:

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I advise a word of caution if anyone thinks sincerity is viable from the above post. In post 31 of this thread it was claimed a survivor of wtc 7 erred in recollection. Why? Because the eyewitness' testimony did not support the OCT.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7580695-4/#post58207153

 

[oldbetang]

I advise a word of caution if anyone thinks sincerity is viable from the above post. In post 31 of this thread it was claimed a survivor of wtc 7 erred in recollection. Why? Because the eyewitness' testimony did not support the OCT.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7580695-4/#post58207153

I stand by that statement of mine. Jennings clearly erred in his earlier recollection. His later testimony essentially confirms that. He stated outright that he did not see any bodies. He did not believe that he stepped over bodies. He did not believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

So the government was so intent on carrying out a vast top secret conspiracy on 9/11 that they painted a picture of it on a van and drove it through New York?

 

[Blayz]

I am sure this is something the Top Insider could clear up.

If only he would come forward.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I stand by that statement of mine. Jennings clearly erred in his earlier recollection. His later testimony essentially confirms that. He stated outright that he did not see any bodies. He did not believe that he stepped over bodies. He did not believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

The strawmen are not worth the time but back up your claim he said he did not believe he stepped over dead bodies. We both know you can't so what we will see is more false claims. I don't care how many false claims you make-and I actually expect them given your track record-but it is sad your fellow OCTAs don't have what it takes to call you on it.

For those who are unaware, here are the statements by Jennings from the earlier interview:


"The fire fighter who took us down kept saying do not look down. And I kept saying why.
He said do not look down. And we're stepping over people and you know you could
feel when you' re stepping over people. "

In a later interview he told the BBC:
"I said it felt like I was stepping over them but I never saw any."

So no where did he say "he did not believe he was stepping over dead bodies." He died a few days before the official NIST report on 7 was released and the cause is unknown to the public. However, just because he is dead it wont stop people like oldbetang from putting words in his mouth. Disgusting.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I am sure this is something the Top Insider could clear up.

If only he would come forward.

That's the best you can do? A childish remark?

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

So the government was so intent on carrying out a vast top secret conspiracy on 9/11 that they painted a picture of it on a van and drove it through New York?

You are free to use that explanation if you wish but personally I think it's a bit silly.

 

[Btodd]

I would like to extend a hearty 'LOL' regarding the idea that the conspirators painted a mural on a van with a plane crashing into the Twin Towers and drove it around the city on 9/11.

Some of these ideas are so patently absurd as to require no response. I would also like to see ManFromUncle, or you, support the claim that the 'dancing Israelis' knew about the attacks beforehand, since the only quote we have is that they wanted to document the event, when they were only noticed after the first plane had hit.

If that's the criteria for assuming foreknowledge, then the entire mainstream media, and any person on the street that took a single picture after the plane hit had 'foreknowledge'.

Also worthy of a laugh is the fact that ManFromUncle posted a pic of a jumper, after previously arguing that the fires weren't that bad. Were more than a hundred people suddenly suicidally depressed?

As usual, you guys want to capitalize on the chaotic reports of that day, in lieu of any verifiable evidence, and expect us to disprove your massive assumptions.

Good methodology.


Btodd

 

[Btodd]

Dancing Israelis

If you'll notice, the initial report of 'explosives' being found was corrected only 8 minutes later, with officials flatly stating that there were none found.

Of course, that report will be left out by the conspiracy sites you rely on for information, because it doesn't help if the facts don't support the conspiracy.

You're welcome.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

As usual, OCTAs are behind the curve on information or purposefully giving misinformation. The 9/11 myths site is talking about a different van that got stopped. That van had five people in it with no mural. There were two vans stopped on 9/11. The one the op is talking about is the one that had two suspects with the mural. Everyone can hear the actual police transmissions where the cop is clearly talking about the mural here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7580695-6/#post58289893

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

There is an official report from the Mineta Institute confirming the mural on the van. It states:

"There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a
painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was
stopped near the temporary command post. It proved to be
rented to group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not
speak English. Fearing that it might be a truck bomb, the NYPD
immediately evacuated the area, called out the bomb squad,
and detained the occupants until a thorough search was made.
The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck."
Http://transweb.sjsu.edu/mtiportal/research/publications/summary/0206.html

Somehow they deemed it to be "innocent" but anyone with just a five percent functioning brain can see a truck with a mural of a plane diving in to the towers on 9/11 is more than just a coincidence.

Here is a transcript of the policy transmissions stating they had two suspects and the van with the mural exploded:

officer: [inaudible] I got a message on that uh plane, it’s a big
truck with a mural painted of a of a airplane diving into New
York City and exploding [inaudible] know what’s in the truck,
the truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] 10-5 10-5
officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York
blowing up. Two men got outta the truck ran away from it, we
got those two [inaudible] under.
officer: kay great.
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] are you holding those to guys [inaudible]
(kay?)
multiple voices/ commotion: [inaudible] f***ing beat the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] out
of him.
officer: [gasps]
multiple voices/ commotion: [inaudible] f***ing [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] out of him
[inaudible]
officer: all right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two
guys over there? you all right over there kay?
officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects
who drive…drove in the van and that exploded we have both of
them under kay let’s get some help over here"

 

[Btodd]

As usual, OCTAs are behind the curve on information or purposefully giving misinformation. The 9/11 myths site is talking about a different van that got stopped. That van had five people in it with no mural. There were two vans stopped on 9/11. The one the op is talking about is the one that had two suspects with the mural. Everyone can hear the actual police transmissions where the cop is clearly talking about the mural here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7580695-6/#post58289893

In other words, the issue about foreknowledge was a giant assumption and cannot be supported in the factual record.

Please clarify for us: Is the cop talking about having actually seen the mural, or merely the report of one? The supposed 'picture' posted by ManFromUncle is a rendering, not a photograph.

But to reiterate...it's hilarious that anyone would believe that the secret conspirators would paint a mural of the van ahead of the attacks, so they could drive it around, full of explosives...on the day of those attacks.

Are you just trolling, or do you actually take this nonsense seriously? It makes as much sense as the 'hijackers are still alive' idea. Wow.


Btodd

 

[Btodd]

There is an official report from the Mineta Institute confirming the mural on the van. It states:

"There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a
painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was
stopped near the temporary command post. It proved to be
rented to group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not
speak English. Fearing that it might be a truck bomb, the NYPD
immediately evacuated the area, called out the bomb squad,
and detained the occupants until a thorough search was made.
The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck."
Http://transweb.sjsu.edu/mtiportal/research/publications/summary/0206.html

Somehow they deemed it to be "innocent" but anyone with just a five percent functioning brain can see a truck with a mural of a plane diving in to the towers on 9/11 is more than just a coincidence.

Here is a transcript of the policy transmissions stating they had two suspects and the van with the mural exploded:

officer: [inaudible] I got a message on that uh plane, it’s a big
truck with a mural painted of a of a airplane diving into New
York City and exploding [inaudible] know what’s in the truck,
the truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] 10-5 10-5
officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York
blowing up. Two men got outta the truck ran away from it, we
got those two [inaudible] under.
officer: kay great.
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] are you holding those to guys [inaudible]
(kay?)
multiple voices/ commotion: [inaudible] f***ing beat the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] out
of him.
officer: [gasps]
multiple voices/ commotion: [inaudible] f***ing [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] out of him
[inaudible]
officer: all right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two
guys over there? you all right over there kay?
officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects
who drive…drove in the van and that exploded we have both of
them under kay let’s get some help over here"

Regarding your first quote, can you specify where to find that in the report, please? What page?

Your second 'transcript' reveals that it's a report of such a thing, not that the officer had actually seen it, as I suspected. Since there were multiple reports of hijacked planes that day beyond the 4 that were actually hijacked, do you get to assume that all of those reports were true, too?

Chaotic events bring about chaotic initial reports that aren't necessarily true. I'm looking for some verification other than a 'rendering' of the supposed mural van from a conspiracy site.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Lol! Even though the van with the mural is independelty verified with the Mineta report OCTAs are still try to change the testimony of those whoare were actually there. It is simply pathetic.

In the police transmission there is more than one cop talking. One who was on the scene said:

officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York
blowing up . Two men got outta the truck ran away from it, we
got those two [inaudible] under.

So there he confirms the mural, there were only two men (not five which helps show it was a different van than the 9/11 myths site discusses...and I don't even think that site discusses the mural van....probably because there is too much evidence)

Then he goes on to say:

officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects
who drive…drove in the van and that exploded we have both of
them under kay let’ s get some help over here"

Again he confirms two suspects and he said the van EXPLODED.

GEE...how will OCTAs try to spin this? Lol......freaking pathetic.

 

[Btodd]

Lol! Even though the van with the mural is independelty verified with the Mineta report OCTAs are still try to change the testimony of those whoare were actually there. It is simply pathetic.

Also from the Mineta Report: ""The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck.”

Pathetic, indeed.

In the police transmission there is more than one cop talking. One who was on the scene said:

officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York
blowing up . Two men got outta the truck ran away from it, we
got those two [inaudible] under.

So there he confirms the mural, there were only two men (not five which helps show it was a different van than the 9/11 myths site discusses...and I don't even think that site discusses the mural van....probably because there is too much evidence)

Then he goes on to say:

officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects
who drive…drove in the van and that exploded we have both of
them under kay let’ s get some help over here"

Again he confirms two suspects and he said the van EXPLODED.

GEE...how will OCTAs try to spin this? Lol......freaking pathetic.

Is there a police report, or any verification of an exploding van?

Even though your theories are consistently absurd, even I am shocked that you would believe the conspirators would paint a mural of a 9/11 attack to parade around the city on 9/11. Isn't part of conspiring the idea of trying not to get caught? HI-LAR-I-OUS. But we're the gullible ones, hahahaha.

If there's any truth to a van with a mural, it most certainly isn't one showing an attack on the Twin Towers. Let's see what kind of verification you come up with for the mural, or that a van exploded as cops pulled up on it. Were any policemen injured in this big explosion?

Were there several planes hijacked besides the 4 flights on 9/11? There are transcripts of those claims, too. Keep trying. Harder. The hijackers are still alive!


Btodd