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USPS Failing to Deliver on Time in 10 Battleground States

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by wing2000, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    The USPS should deliver ballots on time - 97% of the time according to industry experts. Instead, there are key urban areas where the USPS is failing to meet it's delivery objectives at a critical time:

    Over the past five days, the on-time rate for ballots in 17 postal districts representing 10 battleground states and 151 electoral votes was 89.1 percent — 5.9 percentage points lower than the national average. By that measure, more than 1 in 10 ballots are arriving outside the Postal Service’s one-to-three-day delivery window for first-class mail.

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    In Michigan, for example, the Detroit postal district .......... had delivered only 72.8 percent of ballots on time over the past five days, according to Postal Service data filed in U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia. In the Greater Michigan district, which represents the rest of the state, 84.3 percent of ballots arrived to election officials on time.

    In all, 12 of the 17 mailing districts recorded on-time ballot delivery rates below 95 percent, and seven came in under 90 percent.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/30/postal-service-absentee-ballots-2020-election/
     
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  2. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    They obviously should've used UPS, like Tucker did.
     
  3. pescador

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    This has been the Trump/DeJoy strategy since the beginning. Since the pandemic is causing so much fear of close contact between people, many of them have chosen to vote by mail, which is much safer than voting in person. The evil solution? Disrupt the Postal Service so that on-time delivery of the mail, including mailed ballots, is in doubt.
     
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  4. Gifts From Above

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    Please. Trump has nothing to do with this.
     
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  5. Kentonio

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    He appointed DeJoy who then damaged the USPS’s sorting and delivery abilities. Of course he’s responsible.
     
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  6. Gifts From Above

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    So it’s a Trump conspiracy to sabotage the mail...alrighty then.
     
  7. wing2000

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    ...also from the original article:

    Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in the U.S. District Court in D.C. on Friday ordered the Postal Service to provide a written explanation for each district that delivered fewer than 80 percent of ballots on time each day, or fewer than 90 percent of ballots on time for two days in the same week.

    Justice Department lawyers representing the Postal Service cited staffing issues and increased package and paper mail volumes for the ballot mail slowdowns.

    However, isn't the USPS suppose to prioritize ballot processing over all other categories of mail?
     
  8. Fantine

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    Destroying all those million dollar machines bought with taxpayer funds to slow mail delivery is criminal. They were functional. They were cost-effective. They were efficient. They were capable of getting ballots to Boards of Election on time...and there was the problem.

    People have asked Biden whether he will prosecute Trump or De Joy. And Biden says. "I will appoint an Attorney General and it will be entirely up to him/her."

    Imagine! An independent AG. It's been 4 years.
    And that is one of the differences between Biden and Trump.
     
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  9. Kentonio

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    Yes, and he literally did it completely openly right in front of you.
     
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  10. pescador

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    Do you really think that's the case? You think that, for example, mail sorting machines were removed and dismantled for efficiency? Do you think that the removal of the blue standard mailboxes in many locations was by accident? Do you think that cutting overtime wages for postal workers was by accident? DeJoy did what Trump told him to do: disrupt the postal service so that mailed ballots would not be delivered reliably.

    From vox.com...

    Mail service has been disrupted nationwide in recent weeks due to a series of factors. While the USPS has been suffering financially for years, the coronavirus pandemic has delivered an existential threat to the agency. The self-funded Postal Service has been seeking billions in aid from Congress — an effort that’s been stymied by President Trump, who has long had a contentious relationship with the USPS and has pushed to privatize it. And now, the USPS is adjusting to cost-cutting policies put in place by its new postmaster general, Louis DeJoy, who is a top Trump donor and longtime Republican fundraiser.

    The policies include eliminating overtime for postal workers, limiting the number of mail trucks, and removing hundreds of sorting machines from postal facilities, including those in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. DeJoy also implemented a major restructuring of the Postal Service that, according to the Washington Post, “deemphasizes decades’ worth of institutional postal knowledge” and “centralizes power around DeJoy.” These abrupt changes have led to delays in the delivery of everything from paychecks to prescriptions. There’s also widespread concern that these delays could interfere with the November election, when a record number of people are expected to vote by mail due to the pandemic.

    I would suggest that you pay closer attention to what has been going on in this country.
     
  11. Gifts From Above

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    I do. My Mother works for the postal service and everything is fine.
     
  12. Gifts From Above

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    She actually gets home a couple hours early every day because she got a route cut.
     
  13. pescador

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    Sorry, but I can't take your word for it. A good friend of ours works for the Postal Service and he says that things are in a terrible mess, that the P.O. is nowhere near what it used to be before Trump and DeJoy took over.
     
  14. Gifts From Above

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    Sounds like left wing talking points.
     
  15. wing2000

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    Delivery is fine in some areas of the country.

    Other areas not so much:

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  16. WolfGate

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    That map does illustrate how many of the poorly performing states for mail delivery are also battleground states.

    Samples of 1 mean very little, but my own anecdotal example. I had a package shipped USPS from Charlotte NC earlier this week with shipping paid to be overnight. I live in the Triad, another metro area in NC which is about 80 miles away from Charlotte. The package shipped quickly, made it to Concord (20 miles outside of Charlotte) stayed there overnight and sat there the next day (the day I was supposed to get it). It then made it to Greensboro (DeJoy's home, which is irrelevant but kind of interesting) where it spent the second night before getting sent to my local USPS carrier center early the next morning but not in time to get loaded onto my carrier's vehicle. I got it today, two days later than paid for. That wasn't a problem in the past.

    North Carolina allows ballots to be received up to three days past election day as long as they are postmarked by election day. According to the map 15% or more of ballots that get mailed on Tuesday won't make it unless something changes to prioritize them more.
     
  17. Gifts From Above

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    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
     
  18. Bobber

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    If the AG wasn't acting independently from Trump, do you not think Sessions would not have recused himself? And you don't think that Barr wouldn't have already announced investigations and charges to be brought on various individuals? It's rather incredible how you can dream up your way of thinking when the facts clearly show they have been acting independently.
     
  19. Gifts From Above

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    Right and maybe Bigfoot was also involved.
     
  20. Sparagmos

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    That would be evidence that they are making cuts...
     
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