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Urging that Christian schools lose accreditation

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by BobRyan, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. Danthemailman

    Danthemailman Well-Known Member

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    I do not oppress them. I have a nephew who is in that group and he is radical towards Christians, yet my wife and I and the rest of the family have not oppressed him. He doesn’t want anything to do with us or the rest of us in the family who are Christians. He posts a lot of hateful remarks on Facebook about Christians.
     
  2. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Ugh. They are national organizations, not government ones.
     
  3. gaara4158

    gaara4158 (Power Level Hidden)

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    Nor are you oppressed when national accreditation is denied to institutions that do not meet those acceeditors’ standards. Yet here you are, complaining.
     
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  4. Danthemailman

    Danthemailman Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes I wonder why we call this “Christian” Forums. :(
     
  5. gaara4158

    gaara4158 (Power Level Hidden)

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    You’re welcome to stay in the Christians-only sections. This is not a safe space for your beliefs.
     
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  6. NotreDame

    NotreDame Domer Supporter

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    And doing so would be unconstitutional.
     
  7. NotreDame

    NotreDame Domer Supporter

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    But that’s not the issue.
     
  8. NotreDame

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    To the contrary, legally they are, constitutionally they are, it is a little unknown clause called free speech and free exercise of religion in the 1st Amendment. When the University of Virginia attempted to defund money for a school publication because of a specific religious belief, the school was smacked around by SCOTUS for speech discrimination. Ouch.

    And your tax dollars become government property, the dollars aren’t your own at that point. Which is why taxpayers legally cannot object to the government spending taxpayers dollars in a manner they disapprove. To do otherwise would paralyze the government, turning each taxpayer into a tyrannical mini-king who can thwart any government spending that disgusts them.

    Your comment is pleasant in fiction, no basis in reality, for good reason.
     
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  9. seeking.IAM

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    ...And because she's not an educator and bought her appointment with a pile of cash in campaign donations. So, there is that.
     
  10. gaara4158

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    Yes it is.
    1st amendment has nothing to do with national accreditation for substandard institutions.
    Of course they can. It’s called voting, protesting, and being generally politically active. Like you said, we have freedom of speech.
     
  11. Albion

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    She has been a longtime supporter of education and educational reform. It has never been a prerequisite for nomination to the post of Secretary of Education for the person to be a teacher himself or herself.
     
  12. seeking.IAM

    seeking.IAM Episcopalian Supporter

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    I have a longtime interest in money, but it doesn't make me qualified to lead the Federal Reserve.
     
  13. Albion

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    Then you probably won't be nominated for that post yourself. But as for Secretaries of Education, there have been others who were not classroom teachers, so this is not a valid complaint against Betsy DeVos.
     
  14. Subduction Zone

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    This part of the forum exposes you to the real world. You can see if your arguments hold water here.
     
  15. seeking.IAM

    seeking.IAM Episcopalian Supporter

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    Do you think her family giving millions to POTUS and other Republican politicos was not a factor in her appointment?
     
  16. Danthemailman

    Danthemailman Well-Known Member

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    The world views of a Christian and an atheist are polar opposites. Moving on from this part of the forum...
     
  17. Gene2memE

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    Not really, at least in the case of this atheist anyway.

    The number of significant beliefs about the world that I had to revise during my deconversion from Roman Catholicism were pretty minimal. Certainly nothing in the realm of the sciences, and very little in my social or cultural beliefs and practices (beyond the blaringly obvious like stopping attending church). Nothing at all in my political views either.

    Essentially, I started treating Christian beliefs in the same manner that I had approached those other religions when I was a believer - they were fine for some people, but not for me thanks.
     
  18. FireDragon76

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    That doesn't mean society has to recognize such education. We are free to reject Christian diploma mills and indoctrination as being a sufficient education.
     
  19. Danthemailman

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    I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic church, but was not a genuine believer until I received Christ through faith after leaving the Roman Catholic church. How you define "believer?"
     
  20. Gene2memE

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    Someone who accepted the existence of the God of Abrahamic traditions, and the claim that around 2000 years ago part of the triune God was incarnated on earth, held a ministry and gathered a group of followers in a small part of the Levant and was then sacrificed in an act of vicarious redemption.

    Was I a biblical literalist? Not in the slightest. For either the Old or the New testaments.

    Was I an active believer? Yes. I was genuinely convinced that a God existed and sincerely believed.

    What changed was an informal process of educating myself in the areas of philosophy, logic and skepticism/critical thinking. That led me to a place where I realised that I had no justifications for accepting the things that I did concerning my religious beliefs. On examination, I couldn't support them so I dropped them.

    And I always though "faith" was a terrible reason to believe anything. Even as a young schoolboy, that struck me as entirely the wrong way of going about things.
     
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