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unruly muslim student/growing hatred towards muslims!

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by Timahani, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. Timahani

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    Hello Everyone,

    God has always given me a heart for muslims :heart:. I have many muslims in my family and I grew up attending the mosque with my closest female cousins. Also I tend to find that many muslims are attracted to me because of my outwardly modest apparel and how well I treat them. Although, they seem to genuinely love me this feeling is often short lived. They often pressured by their families to disown me and disconnect with me after they find out that my love for them stems for my love for Jesus:heart:. To emphasize how poorly I have been treated, I have been : kicked out of several homes, someone tried to run me over with a car, one young lady could not been seen with me at all.

    My problem is this: I have a student who is from Afghanistan and she is muslim. She originally loved me and invited me over to her home for tea. She treated me with the upmost respect. She often gathered my shoes, helped me with my bags, brought me chicken to school when I was sick ( I am her English teacher). When Christmas came, I spent close a very large sum of money providing her family of 12 with an abundance of gifts! And childrens' books on Jesus. One day afterschool, she asked it me why was Muhammed not in the Bible. I simply stated: that some of his ideologies concerning Jews and Christians; including his marriage of Aisha (his 6 year old bride) did not fair well with Christian doctrine. She had a fit! And our relationship has been strained every since. The rejection from she and her family took a toll on me because of all the things that I had done for them. Some of which I do not have time to explain. Her mood swings are extreme and she goes from being extremely nice to being extremely rude and defiant :rage::rage:. She also does not respect me and she often speaks to me in a rude manner and then the next day she is nice again :tired::tired:.

    My spiritual dilemma is this: I don't know what to do! I have tried forgiving her 1000 times. Right, when I forgive her she does something to really anger me. One thing that I really do not like is her attitude towards me. I cannot do anything about her being in my class. But I don't want to see her, I don't want her around me. In other words, I find hatred growing in my heart towards her that I cannot shake. I am also bombarded with thoughts of her behaviors:coldsweat::coldsweat:. I know its a spiritual battle as well. But I don't know what to do. I always wanted to minister to muslims, but I am beginning to change my mind. Do you have any advice for me on how to deal with these people?
     
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  2. FutureAndAHope

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    The bible says:

    Jas 5:13 Is any among you suffering? let him pray. Is any cheerful? let him sing praise.

    Prayer gives us strength, as we pray we take on the attributes (of love, joy, and peace) that are provided by God.

    I don't mean when you see the person to pray. But rather in your private time, spend time in God's presence. The more time you can spend the better it will be for you internally.
     
  3. Tolworth John

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    Two suggestions.
    If she is rude in class simply tell her off.

    I suspect that her mood swings are caused by confusion in what she believes about islam, Christianity and you.

    You only need to forgive her if she apologises for being rude.
    If she doesn't apologise, pray for her and ask God to challenge her behaviour and for him to forgive her.

    Do continue to show her love.
     
  4. Catherineanne

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    'These people'? Good grief.

    My advice is to stop loving them quite so much, and to back off.

    You are not doing them or yourself any favours at all, not least because your behaviour is very questionable, coming from a teacher. You do not have the right to buy presents for your pupils and their families, or to attempt to prostelytise them. These are boundary violations, and they are not right.

    Stick to teaching, keep it completely professional from now on, and forget the nonsense about having a 'heart for moslems.' If your very first comment about the Bible and Islam to a Moslem child is to disrespect their prophet I am not surprised she was upset; what exactly did you expect? That is NOT the place to start; in fact it isn't in the top 100 places to start.

    And then you might care to actually read the gospels and see what the Lord did; did he force himself on anyone, buy them presents, attempt to bribe them into changing faith? Did he disrespect ANY of the prophets? Or did he simply accept people - you and me and others - as they already were, and love them as they were?
     
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  5. Serving Zion

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    I see a problem by what you have said here. Mohammed was 400 years after the New Testament was written, that is the real reason why he was not found in the bible. But you made it into a moral issue, basically showing her that your judgement of the founder of Islam is to say that he is immoral. She also has the usual human nature that is easily offended when someone disrespects her faith without really having the same intimate knowledge of it - thereby insulting a strawman view of it in ignorance (people do this to Christianity all the time).

    So because you made it personal instead of just saying that the bible was written 400 years before Mohammed, she has been personally offended by what you think of her faith. You gave the devil a foothold.

    Please correct me if I have not understood you right.

    She struggles against an adversary that wants to destroy her.. it is not only a Christian struggle (Psalms 24:1, John 10:10). On those days where the evil spirit has the better of her, it leverages her resentment toward you as it attempts to replicate into your spirit.
     
  6. Catherineanne

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    No. A thousand times no.

    This teacher has crossed professional boundaries, and the child is on the receiving end of that. She has every right to be confused and she has NOTHING to apologise for. The child needs to be taken out of that class and put into one with a teacher who understands boundaries and sticks to them.

    Frankly if I were the parents I would be reporting this teacher for potential professional misconduct; it is that serious. What the OP described is not appropriate professional behaviour.
     
  7. Catherineanne

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    Nonsense.
     
  8. Serving Zion

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    ( :) Hi sister, and Happy New Year too!)

    You need to elaborate to explain this objection.
     
  9. Catherineanne

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    Happy New Year, but don't call me sister. Cathy will do.

    And I think my comment is explanation enough. If someone I thought was a friend disrespected my Lord I would be angry and confused. If it was someone in a position of authority it would be very difficult to cope with.

    Why would a Moslem minor be any different? This is nothing to do with an 'evil spirit'. Not a thing.
     
  10. Timahani

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    Before you throw verbal stones please remember that " None is righteous, Not One" and that " We all fall short of the Glory of God". It is through Gods unconditional grace and mercy that we are all are saved. We are not saved because we "are better" or " more righteous "than others! Our righteousness is like filthy rags unto the Lord!

    Moving on,
    The issue with muhammed was almost a year and 1.5 ago We moved on from that. It was a question that SHE approached me about. I didn't even realize that my comment was offensive. but I apologized and we moved on from it. Even after that incident her grades flourished from a C average to a 4.0. She was also my student of the year last year (because she really did deserve it). Even after the muhammed incident, her family took a whole album of pictures with the pair of us at an awards ceremony and both she and her father thanked me tremendously for the work that I did with her academically :oldthumbsup:.

    I cannot state that all of these behaviors are due the muhammed comment ( almost 2 years ago). Sometimes, it just takes time to really get to know a person. They may seem nice but it takes time to really reveal someone's true character.


    If you read my statement earlier you would have noted that I stated that this year " she is extremely moody with her friends and classmates as well". She came crying to me at least 5 times this year that " No one wants to talk to her and no one wants to be friends with her "This is due to her rude behavior and mood swings".

    The advice that I was seeking was:

    1) How do you forgive people who continually hurt you ( in general, not just speaking of this student)?

    2) How do you love your enemies? and do good to those who use you and say all manner of evil against you?

    3)How do you deal with persecution?


     
  11. Timahani

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    Serving Zion,

    Muhammed came 600 years after the Bible. In addition, I agree with you that we " Fight Not Against Flesh and Blood But Against Rulers of Darkness", Amen!
     
  12. Timahani

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    simple, practical, and to the point! I love it!
     
  13. Catherineanne

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    Speak for yourself.

    I have said what I have said. Ignore it if you want, but I stand by every word.

    If any teacher had behaved as you described with my daughter when she was at school I would most certainly have made a complaint.
     
  14. longwait

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    My only advice to you is do not yoke yourself with unbelievers.
     
  15. Kit Sigmon

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    I would link to the various threads but you have your profile thing set to
    limit who sees them...it wasn't like that before but whatever, I'm
    sure others who have posted in those threads remember some stuff.

    Now here, the story be changed up and you talking about growing up with
    your muslim cousins and attending mosque with them...huh?

    I say huh because in the threads lik3: "was segregation better" and the one about "drug addition, love and grief-help is needed"... you said that you were raised by your well to do christian multi-racial great- grandparents and after they died,
    then both your maternal and paternal grandmothers helped raise you and there
    was mentioned something about your grandparents on the other side of the family were white.
    Church/christianity was mainstay in your early life and you enjoyed being and doing stuff at church.
    You even mentioned that your godparents were ministers and you were part of the worship team at church, you directed the youth and you even attended
    christian university.

    Most of the other threads be about your aunts and cousins on both sides of
    the family playing nice and then they go and do stuff that hurt you and this
    cycle be repeated numerous times... then there's the ones on sexual abuse, physical abuse, manipulations, rip offs etc done by them to you.

    As much as I like to help people on here it gets hard to do that when the
    stories keep changing up or don't make no kind of sense.
    You say the incident with the student happened nearly two years ago?
    OK, but that clashes with the story about you being bedridden for two years, that you spoke about in another thread back in July of 2017. You had a slow recovery, and was being weaned off of medications you were unable to work and later mentioned you were taking a history class and then finally you were getting around better and you made the decision to move away from family following more toxic junk from them.
    Can you please straightened me out so I can understand which direction you
    coming from?






     
  16. Timahani

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    Thank you!
     
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