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Universal Healthcare for all

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by SkyWriting, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. The happy Objectivist

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    No, it's a matter of facts that are discoverable and that is what courts are for, to discover the available facts and to act accordingly and impartially.

    Yes, in the case where the government doesn't do the job we delegate to it, then it falls on each man to defend himself and his property, which he has an absolute right to do. One can not delegate a right that one does not have in the first place.

    The government would only have the right to use force against you if you started its use, just as you only have the right to use force in self-defense.
     
  2. The happy Objectivist

    The happy Objectivist Well-Known Member

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    Are the Tea Party true conservatives?
     
  3. Albion

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    Oh, so now we add in the fickleness of the court system which already renders one decision only to have it overturned by a higher court and who knows what at a still higher court. Or else the courts refuse to hear the case at all.

    You want this to be clear cut, but it never can be, not using this instigator and retaliator system that renders this supposedly tidy system of determining right and wrong no better than what we have at present.

    Doesn't that mean that the Objectivist system of justice is negated?

    Which I have to say again, is a matter of opinion in most cases...and then if it is posited that the government shall decide who is correct about it, you've returned absolute power to the state.
     
  4. Albion

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    The Tea Party members strike me as being a collection of people who are generally conservative or conservative in the aggregate; but there's no blood test for membership and the participants are definitely a mixture.
     
  5. FrumiousBandersnatch

    FrumiousBandersnatch Well-Known Member

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    The history of human conflict is the history of claims that "They started it!"

    But what counts as force, and who decides? does a pickpocket use force? a hacker? squatters? a con-man? Would you be justified in using force against them to regain your property? If you're planning or plotting to use force, can the government (or anyone else) pre-emptively use force against you?
     
  6. timewerx

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    If you asked the world for a vote, I'm sure, there'll be a lot more people voting for socialized healthcare. There's a lot more poor people in the world who badly need quality healthcare.

    It can be traumatic ordeal to lose a loved one because quality healthcare is unaffordable. I was one of those. Left us a huge debt and me in mental wreck. I even lost most of my clients because I can't do my job properly anymore from the ordeal. I have contemplated suicide a few times even. My grandfather did commit suicide as self-euthanasia due to cancer, they couldn't afford hospital either.

    Quality Universal Education is also critically needed while you're at it. You will have more pressing overpopulation problems with universal healthcare. Lack of quality education is strongly correlated to excessively high fertility rates.
     
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