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Featured Unintentional curse

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by ChicanaRose, Sep 3, 2019.

  1. ChicanaRose

    ChicanaRose Well-Known Member

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    I've really held back on asking this for a quite some time now, hoping someone else will bring it up. But I suppose by now, I have no choice.

    For a curse to be effective, does the person need to intentionally practice it? Or could someone wishing me ill intensely bring it to pass?

    I've recently read a thread about someone being cursed by someone else's negative remarks spoken over his/ her life, which hinted to me that curses could occur unintentionally.
     
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  2. rockytopva

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    For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he ... - Proverbs 23:7

    You can break or bring on a curse by believing it is true.
     
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  3. carp614

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    Um...no. Curses of the sort you describe aren't real.
     
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  4. LaBèlla

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    Like a sparrow in its flitting, like a swallow in its flying, a curse that is causeless does not alight. Proverbs 26:2

    Curses derive their power from the mental oppression they create in their target. The person turns the matter to and fro and assigns greater impact than the thought possessed.

    Being cursed and being affected by a curse are different matters. Vexations must be permitted by God and the majority are the result of sin. Things we’ve done or doors we’ve opened which enable Satan to afflict us.

    An individual may have untoward thoughts towards us but that doesn’t mean we labor under the effect of their words unless we take them in our spirit and validate their existence. It must be cast down.

    We aren’t meant to meditate on negative subjects. This is how our warfare grows in ferocity. The more attention you give this issue the greater its strength and presence. Pray and leave the matter with God. Man has no power over Him. Nor you unless you cede it.
     
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  5. Kenny'sID

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    I personally feel curses have no power of their own. As mentioned if anything, it's all in the mind of the cursed, and i doubt self hypnosis would even occur with most people.

    If curses like that had any power, knowing man as we do, complete inhalation would soon finish us all off, and God would never allow us that much power.

    In the biblical sense, isn't a curse the same as it is today, as in cursing someone/speaking badly of them or the equivalent of a comment to someone that expects a "#$^3 you too" reply? Or cussing them. I ask because i don't recall a single bad thing happening to anyone due to men or women cursing them. Gods curses are a different story.
     
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  6. ChicanaRose

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    It depends on how much God permits.
     
  7. brinny

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    :heart: I was going to post the same verse that LaBella posted in the beginning of post #4.

    In addition, an often overlooked verse is a "knock-out punch" to Satan and his minions and his agents, especially the FIRST part (THAT is what sets the enemy to fleeing). Submitting ourselves to God is pivotal. THIS submitting ourselves to God is HOW we RESIST THE DEVIL. THAT is why he "flees". When we "fear God" and thus the "submitting" ourselves to Him (humbling ourselves before Him) GOD takes on the battle.

    "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." ~Jam 4:7

    Praying sister.

    This comes to mind:

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  8. ChicanaRose

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    What a great verse. Amen, let it be so. I was reluctant to post this question because not everyone believes in the reality of a curse. I have seen clear patterns of strange happenings (as opposed to strange "feelings") over time that I could not ignore. But perhaps the enemy is like a person who likes to provoke. The more I let it get to me, the more he will enjoy harassing me. If I pray and leave it to God, hopefully these strange external events will cease.

    I could learn a lot from how you dealt with the enemy harassing you in your home (your post in another thread). You grabbed your stuff and got out of the house the first time, but you did not continue to live in fear by constantly leaving the house every time strange things happened there. I need to deal with my calling in the same way, and not let him scare me away. My mother said that the more I run away, the more the I stir the enemy's interest to chase me--the same reason you are not supposed to run when you see a wild dog. If only I had more faith.
     
  9. ChicanaRose

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    Thanks so much, Brinny. I agree with LaBella too. I know in my head God is stronger. I just need more faith.
     
  10. brinny

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    :heart: Praying, sister. (((hug)))

    The battle is the LORD'S, not "ours".

    The enemy wants to keep us from grasping this, and he's very good (expeert) at it.

    This comes to mind:

     
  11. LaBèlla

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    I think you’ll see parallels if you consider how it came to pass. Admittedly, I was terrified. That happens in movies not in real life. But I had true friends who had my back.

    God used that situation and my stand as a training ground for spiritual warfare. There were times when I wanted to quit but they wouldn’t let me.

    I wasn’t a mountain of faith back then. That came with time, prayer, and gifting. When you say yes to God all hell breaks loose. It is Satan’s job to stop you or make you ineffective.

    Learn your weaknesses. See the place in your armor he attacks. He will go for the weakest place in the wall. That is the area you must fortify first.

    Search for an audio version of the bible and let it play while you sleep. It saturates your mind and I still do this when I’m under attack.
     
  12. LaBèlla

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    This is something I’ve prayed many times before bed to combat fear and anxiety. It a prayer of peace over the entire body. Pray it tonight. :)

    Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth. Listen to the message that Spirit speaks to the flesh, and listening, perceive and obey. Your redemption draweth nigh.

    Scalp and hair, relax, relax, relax. Let the life and beauty and glory of the Most High crown you. I am overshadowed by the angel of His presence, and there is continually being poured out upon me a shower of blessings that far exceed in number the hairs of my head. I am open to receive them in an ever-increasing measure of livingness.

    Forehead, relax. You need not be tense and wrinkled from anxiety, worry, for I put my trust in the Lord. Thy name, O Father, written within my heart, sets a seal in my forehead that is my protection from all evil.

    Eyes, relax. All the muscles and nerves in and around the eyes, relax, that physical weakness may pass and spiritual strength and life flow in. Mine eyes are ever toward the Lord, that I may behold the beauty of His countenance and the riches of His kingdom.

    Keep, O Lord, this lamp of my body single, that I may see the good only in persons, circumstances, and things, and that my whole body may be lighted with Thy glory.


    Mouth, relax, relax, relax. Let go of all error words that you may be an instrument through which the Beloved speaks. Set a watch, O Jehovah, before my mouth,
    Keep the door of my lips.


    Relax, all the muscles and nerves around the mouth, that the corners may turn up and outpicture the inner joy of the heart and the sweetness in the soul.

    Ears, relax, that all spiritual deafness may pass from you, that you may hear the guiding and directing voice of Spirit. I am not rebellious about anything past or present. I am meek and lowly, willing and obedient, and my inner ear is attuned to catch the slightest message from the omniscient Guide.

    Front brain, relax. I am not headstrong, therefore I do not suffer from splitting headaches. My human intellect is merged in the divine. When I lack wisdom I seek entrance to Thine omniscient mind, O knower of all things, and Thou dost give to me liberally of Thy great knowledge and infinite understanding.

    Base of the brain and spinal cord, relax, relax. Let the peace that passeth understanding flow through you and out from you into every center of the body. I establish Thy tree of life in the midst of the garden of my soul, O Jehovah, and its leaves wither not, neither does its fruit perish or decay.

    Its beauty shall be to me as an olive tree planted by the river of waters, and the freshness that comes from the river of life, flowing into my soul, keeps me eternally young.


    Vertebrae, relax. Relax to the strength center at the small of my back. Let divine strength pour through you into mind and body, making strong all weak decisions, redeeming all weak sensations. Relax, vertebrae, to the elimination center at the tip of the spine.

    Let me eliminate all error from mind and body, let all inharmonies pass into outer nothingness. Thy purity, O Spirit, cleanses every physical weakness and makes strong every vital part of my being. All old accumulations are eliminated from mind and body, and I am eternally free.


    Neck, relax, relax, relax. Be an open channel through which the river of life may flow to and fro, in perfect circulation throughout the garden of God. Let me not in any way, at any time, be stiff-necked, superior, proud, but let me be poised and gracious in a consciousness of oneness with all.

    Throat, relax, that the power center in you may be baptized from on high. All power is given me in mind, body, and affairs through my consciousness of the abiding presence of Christ within my own soul.

    Shoulders, relax and let go of all responsibilities, that the great Burden Bearer may draw near and lift the load. Thou, O Christ, will sustain and uphold me, for Thy yoke is easy, Thy burden light. In thee I trust and find surcease from labor and rest to my soul.

    Arms, to the elbows, relax. Elbows, to the wrists, relax. Wrists, to the tips of the fingers, relax. In all that you do, do it as unto the Lord, and you shall be swift to do good and quick to execute righteousness. I am quiet, open, receptive, that I may be used by the Master, and that His law of giving and receiving may be fulfilled in me.

    Chest, relax, expand. Lungs, relax, that the inspiration of the Almighty may fill you. Let me breathe in and breathe out the breath of God until I become a living soul.

    Stomach, relax. The providing law of God my Father is active in me and for me, therefore I take no anxious thought what I shall eat or what I shall drink.

    I agree with my food, and it agrees with me. I drink of the life and eat the substance of the Christ body. I do not worry, I am not sensitive, I do not fear, but I rest in the bosom of the Father in peace and joy.

    Liver, relax and let go of the bondage imposed on you by the criticism and condemnation of the human intellect. I do not judge according to appearances, but I do judge and am judged according to the judgment of the righteous One.

    Abdomen, relax. Relax, all vital organs within your walls. Let the Great Physician have His perfect way in you. Let the Great Healer rectify all inharmonies. Let all physical waste be eliminated, let the waters of life cleanse you. Thou, O Father, who art rich in compassion and mercy, quicken Thy mercy and compassion through me and toward me.

    Generative organs, relax. All the thoughts of my mind and the desires of my life are lifted up, through the consciousness of the indwelling Christ; and the river of life, flowing freely through me, cleanses and renews every atom of my being.

    I thank Thee, O God, for the regenerating, purifying process now taking place in me, making me a new creature through and through.

    Hips, relax. You are not weighted down by the burdens of the body, neither am I weighted down by the cares of life. Through the realization of the presence of Christ, the great Burden Bearer, I am eternally young and free.

    Thighs, to the knees, relax. Thou, O Father, hath made firm the weak knees.

    Knees, to the ankles, relax. I am continually upheld, because I know that underneath are the everlasting arms.

    Ankles, to the tips of the toes, relax. I walk quietly before the Lord, therefore I am strong. The oil of divine love lubricates all the joints of my body, dissolves all hardness, and harmonizes mind and body so that they can express themselves according to the perfect pattern.

    Feet, relax, that you may not slip from the path of perfect expression. My understanding is now at one with Divine Mind. Because, O Christ, Thou hast plucked my feet out out of a net and set them on a rock, and established my going, I mount up with wings as the eagle, I run and am never weary, I walk and faint not.

    Heart, relax, that there may be wiped from you all bitterness, all hardness, all hatred through the forgiving love of Christ Jesus. Love never faileth, neither do you, filled with the love of God, fail in any of your functions.

    God is the strength of my heart and each cell in my heart partakes of this strength. I have set up Thy throne in my heart, O King of my life, and my flesh rests in hope. My heart continually rejoices, because I am at peace with all mankind.

    Solar plexus, sun of my soul, light of my body, shine out the glory of thy Creator into every part of my being, that I may be restored to the perfect image and likeness, to the pattern in the mount, my eternal birthright and heritage from my Father, God.

    My Father, my Creator, Thou whose likeness I am, whose image I bear, let my mind comprehend Thy beauty and purity, my body radiate it, my life express it, to Thy glory.

    May I let go of every thought, every desire, every material possession, that hinders this perfection from becoming my own. I am open and receptive to the river of Thy cleansing and renewing, and it flows through and through me, making me a new creative in Christ Jesus, every whit whole.
     
  13. Sketcher

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    So, there's literal cursing, which is calling upon supernatural forces to harm someone.

    And then there's what some people call non-literal cursing, where hurtful things are said either to or about someone, they hear them, and believe them, and they negatively affect the person's life. The person may intend that it be corrective, or may not intend for the other to hear it at all. But the person being talked about heard it, and was hurt by it. And that's what matters for the question you are asking.

    So in the literal sense, I don't know enough about the occult to say yes. In the non-literal sense, definitely.
     
  14. ChicanaRose

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    That sounds like the thread I was reading the other day. My case is different but the bottom line seems to be not to let fear get a grip on me.
     
  15. LoricaLady

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    Words have power. The Almighty spoke the universe into existence and we are made in His image. "Life and death are in the power of the tongue" per the Bible. It also says "With your words your will be justified and with your words you will be condemned."

    I do not pretend to be an expert on how much "harmless" negative words could hurt you. We have all experienced such things coming at us in our lives. We have all thoughtlessly sent such words out to others.

    I would just simply pray about any negative words and ask the Father to protect you, through your own countering words of affirmation and prayer and praise.

    I pray you will not be harmed.
     
  16. ChicanaRose

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    Thank you, LoricaLady. I agree that words have powers. In my situation, I was wondering more about the thoughts of an individual. If a person stares at you with the spirit of jealousy, wishing intensely for you to fail, could bad things happen?
     
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    I am no expert on such things. But I know what has worked for me many times about people who take an enemy stance to me. I say "Thank You Abba that I know that fear of man brings a snare but that the one who puts their trust in you is kept secure. I put my trust in You! Thank You for keeping me secure." Then I act like I mean it by dropping worrisome thoughts out of my mind.

    Another thing I say, too, might be "Thank You Abba that greater is He, Your Son, Who is in me than he that is in that person. [I.e.. the devil, or at least demons.] Thank You that I am covered by the Blood of the Lamb." Then I turn my thoughts to other things.
     
  18. ChicanaRose

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    Thank you. I will try that. That is, I will try that instead of fearing that something bad might happen again (as I have seen patterns with a certain person).
     
  19. LoricaLady

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    Here are some Bible verses about cursing. They are not extensive as they just were found with the search word "cursed."

    Joshua cursed Jericho and said that anyone who tried to rebuild it would pay with the death of their first born son. That is reportedly what happened to a man last century who tried to rebuild it. David put a curse on the mountain of Bilboa and to this day, though generally Israel is flourishing now, it is desolate.

    Lots of interesting stuff in the Bible about cursing, like "The curse causeless shall not come."
     
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