Understanding each other religion

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
I have encountered quite numbers of negative feedbacks from senior Christians towards other religions in a decade over multiple Churches.

i.e.
1. No such things like fasting to enter heaven.
2. Basic fundamental of one the religion is totally not making sense.
3. Those practice are evil practices.

Some of them are doing teaching in Church. Those conversation can be an hour in 2 hours discussion. 50% of the time negative talks would it be too much? This link below discuss the side effects of the negative talks by a Doc.

Back to #1 above, the Pastor didn't know fasting actually has a lot health benefits.
5 Intermittent Fasting Methods, Reviewed

Ques: Is that appropriate that i let them know that i pray for them to not being too negative towards other religions but rather loved and try to be understanding each other more?

In Mark 12:32–33, the scribe who asked Jesus the question responds with, “To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.
 
Last edited:

Tolworth John

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Mar 10, 2017
8,143
4,589
67
Tolworth
✟333,349.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
he Pastor didn't know fasting actually has a lot health benefits.

That is very different from what your point number 1 says.
1/ no such thing as fasting to enter heaven.
That is a true statement. One gets to heaven only through faith in Jesus.

your point 2, please quote what was said.
point 3. if it is not Christian it is evil in that it is not doing what God commands, that is to have faith in Jesus only.
 
Upvote 0

Maria Billingsley

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Oct 7, 2018
7,698
6,360
62
Martinez
✟668,451.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
I have encountered quite numbers of negative feedbacks from senior Christians towards other religions in a decade over multiple Churches.

i.e.
1. No such things like fasting to enter heaven.
2. Basic fundamental of one the religion is totally not making sense.
3. Those practice are evil practices.

Some of them are doing teaching in Church. Those conversation can be an hour in 2 hours discussion. 50% of the time negative talks would it be too much? This link below discuss the side effects of the negative talks by a Doc.

Back to #1 above, the Pastor didn't know fasting actually has a lot health benefits.
5 Intermittent Fasting Methods, Reviewed

Ques: Is that appropriate that i let them know that i pray for them to not being too negative towards other religions but rather loved and try to be understanding each other more?
Welcome to CF! As Christians we uphold our faith, the belief in the One God. I'm not sure how anyone who is in the Body of Christ can support and be positive about another belief. But maybe I'm missing something? Blessings.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sir Joseph
Upvote 0

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
That is very different from what your point number 1 says.
1/ no such thing as fasting to enter heaven.
That is a true statement. One gets to heaven only through faith in Jesus.

your point 2, please quote what was said.
point 3. if it is not Christian it is evil in that it is not doing what God commands, that is to have faith in Jesus only.
Is that ok listen to negative talks for hours with Pastor?
 
Upvote 0

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
Welcome to CF! As Christians we uphold our faith, the belief in the One God. I'm not sure how anyone who is in the Body of Christ can support and be positive about another belief. But maybe I'm missing something? Blessings.

By showing too much of negativity, fast to anger, lack of compassion and wisdom then do you showing an example of a good Christian or a good teacher in Church ? If a free thinker comes to you in this case, then do u think that a free thinker will join Christ?
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

2PhiloVoid

Pushing your epistemic pillars!
Supporter
Oct 28, 2006
18,482
8,865
Somewhere, out there!
✟914,507.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I have encountered quite numbers of negative feedbacks from senior Christians towards other religions in a decade over multiple Churches.

i.e.
1. No such things like fasting to enter heaven.
2. Basic fundamental of one the religion is totally not making sense.
3. Those practice are evil practices.

Some of them are doing teaching in Church. Those conversation can be an hour in 2 hours discussion. 50% of the time negative talks would it be too much? This link below discuss the side effects of the negative talks by a Doc.

Back to #1 above, the Pastor didn't know fasting actually has a lot health benefits.
5 Intermittent Fasting Methods, Reviewed

Ques: Is that appropriate that i let them know that i pray for them to not being too negative towards other religions but rather loved and try to be understanding each other more?

Wikey321, some of us Christians can very well engage, evaluate and even appreciate various aspects of other world religions. We can take classes on Eastern Religions and Eastern Philosophies (I have). We can read and understand the texts, rituals and gurus who represent and reside within those Religions, Philosophies and Traditions.

How any one 'Christian' responds to these alternatives will depend upon that person's philosophy, outlook on the world and on his education. So, some Christians will be open to the consideration of other Religions and Philosophies, and some won't.

Just keep in mind that being open to the consideration of what other religions have to offer isn't necessarily synonymous with accepting them or seeing them as equally significant or true. One position doesn't necessarily entail the other.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sir Joseph
Upvote 0

Lukaris

Orthodox Christian
Supporter
Aug 3, 2007
7,071
2,044
Pennsylvania, USA
✟533,253.00
Country
United States
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Single
I believe in light of the collapse of traditional human understandings of life, it is good to have a general understanding what was generally understood as right and wrong among human beings. This is what St. Paul speaks about in Romans 2 and the great falling away termed in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 but actually all of 2 Thessalonians 2 to it’s fullest extent. Until recently, understandings such as God made us male & female were basic, common sense ( Genesis 1:26-27, Mark 10:6-9 etc.). Now this is being censored or considered hateful.

C.S. Lewis wrote a book about what had traditionally accounted for basic understandings among human beings and how these were being disrupted. It is called: The Abolition of Man & one of his shortest & ( for me anyway)hard to fully grasp writings. These were actually a series of lectures that preceded another series of lectures that became his most helpful & wonderful book: Mere Christianity.

I believe both of these writings are excellent aides alongside Biblical reading in what may be the final phase of the great falling away.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abolition_of_Man#:~:text=The%20Abolition%20of%20Man%20is,of%20doing%20away%20with%20them

Mere Christianity - Wikipedia.
 
Upvote 0

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
Wikey321, some of us Christians can very well engage, evaluate and even appreciate various aspects of other world religions. We can take classes on Eastern Religions and Eastern Philosophies (I have). We can read and understand the texts, rituals and gurus who represent and reside within those Religions, Philosophies and Traditions.

How any one 'Christian' responds to these alternatives will depend upon that person's philosophy, outlook on the world and on his education. So, some Christians will be open to the consideration of other Religions and Philosophies, and some won't.

Just keep in mind that being open to the consideration of what other religions have to offer isn't necessarily synonymous with accepting them or seeing them as equally significant or true. One position doesn't necessarily entail the other.
>>Ques: Is that appropriate that i let them know that i pray for them to not being too negative towards >>other religions but rather loved and try to be understanding each other more?
Well, back to my question. Should i let her know that i pray for her to be more understand about other religions?
 
Upvote 0

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
Until recently, understandings such as God made us male & female were basic, common sense ( Genesis 1:26-27, Mark 10:6-9 etc.). Now this is being censored or considered hateful.

Hi Lukaris, can you elaborate more what is being censored ?
 
Upvote 0

wikey321

Active Member
Mar 3, 2020
36
9
44
KUALA LUMPUR
✟5,150.00
Country
Malaysia
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
That is very different from what your point number 1 says.
1/ no such thing as fasting to enter heaven.
That is a true statement. One gets to heaven only through faith in Jesus.

your point 2, please quote what was said.
point 3. if it is not Christian it is evil in that it is not doing what God commands, that is to have faith in Jesus only.

Well, if fasting is scientifically brings benefit then a healthy life will take you closer to God with more quality "time" for prayers "rather" spending time at hospital (queuing, travelling, waiting) and impacting others people time to pray or work for Christ as well ? Making sense ?

5 Intermittent Fasting Methods, Reviewed
 
Upvote 0

2PhiloVoid

Pushing your epistemic pillars!
Supporter
Oct 28, 2006
18,482
8,865
Somewhere, out there!
✟914,507.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
>>Ques: Is that appropriate that i let them know that i pray for them to not being too negative towards >>other religions but rather loved and try to be understanding each other more?
Well, back to my question. Should i let her know that i pray for her to be more understand about other religions?

Sure, you can do anything constructive in the social relation you'd like. You're a fellow human being and they should--if they have their wits about them--realize that you're capable of reaching out to the Divine through prayer too.

But just don't be surprised if, when you tell them that you're going to pray for them, they give you a cocked-eye look of disbelief. And if they do, it'll probably be because they'll have misinterpreted something Jesus said during one of the times He taught about prayer and they'll think you're making some mistake in doing so since you're a non-Christian Gentile.

Anyway, be blessed in your attempt. :cool:
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Lukaris

Orthodox Christian
Supporter
Aug 3, 2007
7,071
2,044
Pennsylvania, USA
✟533,253.00
Country
United States
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Single
Upvote 0

Tolworth John

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Mar 10, 2017
8,143
4,589
67
Tolworth
✟333,349.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Is that ok listen to negative talks for hours with Pastor?

If any preacher is only preaching about the do not do and other negitive speach, find an other one.
Christianity is about the positive.
 
Upvote 0

ViaCrucis

Confessional Lutheran
Oct 2, 2011
34,890
24,654
Pacific Northwest
✟647,502.00
Country
United States
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Others
Something I appreciate about the Lutheran tradition is its sharp distinction between Law and Gospel. In a sense, most religions and moral philosophies get some elements of the Law correct, "Do not murder" "Do not steal", etc. What St. Paul describes in Romans ch. 1 as God's power displayed through His creation.

The Law cannot bring us closer to God. So even if one is a Christian and merely preaching Law--what we should do and not do, what God commands, etc--that won't improve a single hair on our head before God, nor bring us one step closer to Him.

For Lutherans, that is how we understand Paul when he says no one can be justified by the Law. No amount of our own efforts to be righteous, no matter how well or even how perfectly we might understand the Law, it can't aid us one tiny bit get us closer to God. And, in fact, we would rather flee from God, because the God we see in the Law is terrifying. It's why, as Paul says in Romans 1, that though God's power is on display through creation, we did not come to know the Creator, but instead gave ourselves over to gods of our own making.

This isn't just about "other religions". Christians can, and often are, just as guilty of this. In trying to know God through "morality", we don't want anything to do with the terrifying and holy God veiled behind the Law; so instead we invent our own gods, remake God into the likeness of something that is more palatable to us. Sometimes, then, there is the idolatry of a god of pure morality who blesses and rewards us for our moral ability and goodness, but who will judge all the evildoers over there. Like the Pharisee at the Temple who prayed, "I thank You Lord that I am not like all these sinners, especially that tax collector". And still others may fall into the idolatry of a god of apathy, a grandfatherly old man who doesn't really care how we live as long we are trying to be reasonably nice, and certainly won't chastise or speak against us like we were sinners. So many false gods. We Christians are frequently guilty of these things. I know I am.

Thus the central Christian proposition: The only way we can know God is through Jesus Christ. That we might see God, not in the terror and veil of the Law, but in the kind face of the Crucified Carpenter from Galilee. That is to say, grace. The Gospel. That our sins are washed clean, forgiven, reconciled to God. Though our sins are red as a crimson stain, they shall be made white as snow.

We don't come to God through a system of morality. God comes to us in the weakness and humility of Jesus of Nazareth.

-CryptoLutheran
 
Upvote 0

Tolworth John

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Mar 10, 2017
8,143
4,589
67
Tolworth
✟333,349.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Well, if fasting is scientifically brings benefit then a healthy life will take you closer to God with more quality "time" for prayers "rather" spending time at hospital (queuing, travelling, waiting) and impacting others people time to pray or work for Christ as well ? Making sense ?

5 Intermittent Fasting Methods, Reviewed
Fasting may have health beneifts but in its self it does not bring one closer to God.
We can only have a relationship with God through his Son Jesus.
So a Buddhist, or Hindu, or Muslim or an Atheist fasting does not bring them closer to God since they all reject Jesus as the only way to God.
 
Upvote 0

angelsaroundme

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2020
1,368
1,133
32
Georgia
✟81,061.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Celibate
"Fasting not only uses your fat reserves, but also cleanses your body of harmful toxins that might be present in fat deposits. With the digestive system on a month-long overhaul, your body naturally detoxifies, giving you the opportunity to continue a healthier lifestyle beyond Ramadan."

The world would have less health issues if they fasted like Muslims and Catholics do or at least did historically. But it's not easy to change people's habits.
 
Upvote 0