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Featured UNDER THE LAW!

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by HARK!, Mar 22, 2020.

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  1. Dkh587

    Dkh587 David דויד Supporter

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    That doesn’t say anything close to what you posted.
     
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    This is the covenant I will make with them
    after that time, says the Lord.
    I will put my laws in their hearts,
    and I will write them on their minds.


    17 Then he adds:

    ‘Their sins and lawless acts
    I will remember no more.’

    18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary. Heb10:15-18

    Is the above your covenant? The law is written in the mind and placed on the heart, and as previously shown to you, because that is so, you can meet the requirements of the law without having the law(written law) Is that your covenant?
    Sacrifices for sin were made for the sins of those in covenant, this is n o longer necessary. Why not? Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more. Not possible under a covenant of righteousness of obeying the law:
    For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb9:24-27
    Is that your covenant?
     
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    Of course it does, the law is on your heart, it is not written in ink or on tablets of stone
     
  4. Dkh587

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    if what’s written on your heart does not match what’s written on stone, then the law is not being written on your heart.
     
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    Then it is back to what was stated the other day. If you believe that includes keeping a specific Saturday sabbath, you have to believe anyone who does not do so and has no consciousness of sin by not doing so cannot be a Christian. For according to what you wrote, the law is not then in their heart, they cannot then be in covenant
     
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    How did you become convinced you must keep a specific Saturday sabbath, because that was in your heart and mind, or because you read law written in ink that had been engraved in stone? If the latter, it was not written in your heart was it
     
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    The scripture is clear. The law will be written on the heart in the new covenant - if you aren’t keeping the Sabbath, then the law is not written on the heart.

    it’s being written on my heart through the Spirit
     
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    No, you only thought you should follow a specific Saturday sabbath because you read law written in ink, otherwise you would not have known, therefore that law as written was not written in your heart and mind.
     
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    Because the Spirit wrote it on my heart, like Jeremiah prophecied.

    Didn’t you read what he wrote? The law on stone will be written on the heart.
     
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    But you only believed you should observe a specific Saturday sabbath because you read law written in ink, so it was not law written in your heart and mind, obviously
     
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    Knowledge of sin comes through reading the law. You have to read the law to know what sin is.
     
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    Reading the law is how you learn what sin is.
     
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    Nonsense, that is not the new covenant. The law is written on your heart and mind by the Spirit of the living God. What is in your mind you in your mind must know. Law in your heart must give you heartfelt consciousness of sin if you ignore it for: through the law we become conscious of sin. Paul disagrees with you also:

    Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, Rom2:14&15
     
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    Nonsense, that's not the new covenant. Jesus told the disciples there was much more he wanted to teach them, more than they could now bear, but when the Spirit of truth came he would guide them into all truth. So according to Jesus words, what he stated in the Gospels could be understood without the indwelling Holy Spirit, what followed in the Apostles letters could not.
    Something to think about isn't it
     
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    irony is so ironic.

    I don’t even understand the rating system, lol
     
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    This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1Cor2:13&14
     
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    1 Corinthians 2:12-14
    What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
     
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    Yet most won't even pay heed to what was written in stone.
     
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    The Ruach Ha'kodesh led me away from those guys who said that it was OK to break what was written in stone, and worship on SUNday.
     
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    A born again Christian takes heed of what is in their most inward parts, that is where their law has been placed
     
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