Benedicta00
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I can tell you thats abused in my dioceses.nyj said:By special Bishop consent. However, the Pope has specifically asked that this only be done in extreme circumstances.
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I can tell you thats abused in my dioceses.nyj said:By special Bishop consent. However, the Pope has specifically asked that this only be done in extreme circumstances.
That's okay. He had me laughing at this...NDIrish said:LMAO!!!! I know this probably wasn't meant to be funny, but it struck a cord...heh...
I feel your pain though...
HUm....I'm sorry, Catholicism and Protestantism are NOT compatible! We agree on the Trinity...ok, are they going to teach the Catholic kids about the Trinity the entire time? Or are they going to teach them about how the Eucharist is symbolic and you really don't have to confess your sins, because you are saved already!?
Whats wrong with that? We have that and I would say that our Mass is not "new age."I can try to overlook the female altar servers.
Because its wrong and it is just to appease the liberals. Alter servers is supposed to be a call to vocations to the priesthood and girls can never grow up to be priests, so if you think about it, its really curl to let them serve. IMHO, as always. It is a disfirgurament of the beauty of the Church and the Mass.princess_ballet said:Whats wrong with that? We have that and I would say that our Mass is not "new age."
Well I suppose we all have different opinions then.Because its wrong and it is just to appease the liberals.
don't mean to offend you..but I'm not Catholic..I'm Baptist..and see nothign wrong with worshipping in music...and yes music does lift me up...I know alot of older peopel don't understand why thier are bands likes Pillar...but I liek it...because itst he beat that gets my attention first..then the lyrics...if you look up lyrics for thier song you would understand it is Christian music...no matter how loud the beat is...I hate to say this but I believe this is the future of Christian music..it gets teens attention faster then old Christian music with no beat to it..if you get my pointNDIrish said:Would you be angry if someone broke out their guitar and startnig singing along as Christ was hanging on the cross? I'm guess you probably would be.
This is quite deplorable, and you should complain to the Bishop, making it quite clear you are prepared to take the matter higher still if necessary. This is totally against Catholic teaching and practice. It is quite obvious that this protestant is NOT going to teach catholicism to the youth (the very fact that they want to turn the crucific around proves this). It seems most likely that some sort of loose protestantism will be taught, preparing the kids for full-blooded protestant "evangelisation" at a later date. Both parents and children deserve better than this.Defens0rFidei said:After the performance, the priest starts talking about how the singer is the director of our youth services. "We have a unique situation here...we have a joint Protestant-Catholic CCD"
Um....I'm sorry, Catholicism and Protestantism are NOT compatible! We agree on the Trinity...ok, are they going to teach the Catholic kids about the Trinity the entire time? Or are they going to teach them about how the Eucharist is symbolic and you really don't have to confess your sins, because you are saved already!?
Exactly. Please tell the priest your feelings on this. His duty is to teach the Faith, not help subvert it.We are NOT going back to our Church. I'm supposed to teach RCIA again this year, and I'm meeting with the priest on Wed, so I am thinking of doing this rant in person. Its great to hold hands and be nice to the Protestants, and I appreciate what the Protestant singer was trying to do, but if he knew how we felt I'm sure he wouldn't have been there. He of course got the obligatory clapping by most of the church, but when the priest started talking about the joint-CCD, my wife left...and I soon followed!
The new mass is a step toward Protestant thinking, downplaying the sacrificial element, and turning it more to a "community meal". "New liturgists" are trying even harder to de-sacralise the mass. The point is that these people will try to bully people into their ways by saying "This is ordered by Vatican 2" when most of it isn't. They insist the Traditionalists are wrong, and should "obey" the rules of the "modernisers". But they are the first to break the Laws of the Church themselves, in actions such as you describe, and other abuses.This kind of thing makes me want to run to a traditional Mass and never look back! I'd rather go to an Eastern Orthodox service over this new age insanity! It also makes the Traditionalist Catholic's points seem a lot more valid! I used to think they were nuts for complaining about the "New Mass" that was devised with the "help" of Protestants. Now I'm not so sure!
I don't the exact quote so I can't argue it, but it was my understanding that female altar servers were allowed in the Church. They were always allowed in every Parish in my diocese.By special Bishop consent. However, the Pope has specifically asked that this only be done in extreme circumstances. Being an altar boy has the potential to be one of the first steps in discerning a vocation to the priesthood, and since women cannot be priests... well, you see what I mean?
don't mean to offend you..but I'm not Catholic..I'm Baptist..and see nothign wrong with worshipping in music...and yes music does lift me up...I know alot of older peopel don't understand why thier are bands likes Pillar...but I liek it...because itst he beat that gets my attention first..then the lyrics...if you look up lyrics for thier song you would understand it is Christian music...no matter how loud the beat is...I hate to say this but I believe this is the future of Christian music..it gets teens attention faster then old Christian music with no beat to it..if you get my point
You may want to recheck that. It's unlikely they were "always allowed" in your diocese. This may be true to you recollection, but not "always," as this is a relatively new occurance.DXRocker73 said:I don't the exact quote so I can't argue it, but it was my understanding that female altar servers were allowed in the Church. They were always allowed in every Parish in my diocese. . . .
Would it have been appropriate for someone to break out a guitar and start singing some "uplifting contemporary" song 2000 years ago, as Christ was being crucified? Right at the foot of the cross?
No I mean since the Pope said it was ok they were alowed. Not they were ALWAYS allowed, lol.You may want to recheck that. It's unlikely they were "always allowed" in your diocese. This may be true to you recollection, but not "always," as this is a relatively new occurance.
Then you disagree with Pope John Paul II.DXRocker73 said:I personally don't believe Altar Serving is a starting step for Priests, I mean it can don't get me wrong. But overall I believe becoming an Altar Server is just a way to serve God.
A garden of priestly vocations.Pope John Paul II - April 6 said:6. In the light of this, dear brother priests, I would ask you, among other initiatives, to show special care for altar servers, who represent a kind of "garden" of priestly vocations. The group of altar servers, under your guidance as part of the parish community, can be given a valuable experience of Christian education and become a kind of pre-seminary. Help the parish, as a family made up of families, to look upon the altar servers as their own children, like "olive shoots around the table" of Jesus Christ, the Bread of Life (cf. Psalm 127:3).