UFOs: What do Christians say about aliens - What does the Bible say?

[Semper-Fi]

Even we today have a similar distinction
between a planet and a home "World".

The bible talks about 3 worlds.

The world that was [before flood],
the world that is [current],
and the world soon to come [mill].

All are the same planet earth.

 

[RileyG]

Salvation is only offered on this planet - since only this planet has sinned.

Only this planet is in rebellion

Are aliens created in the image and likeness of God? Scripture is silent about lives on other planets.

 

[Sorn]

If they do exist and eventually appear they will most defiantly be fallen angels. At least two Christian miniseries speak about this and the encounters through out history. The government has been involved at least since the 1940s. You are aware of the alleged encounter and treaty President Eisenhower made with these creatures?

Dr. Tom Horn, a Christian minister has written on the topic, as well as documentaries, and another Pastoral family, Justen and Wes Faulk, made the documentary Higher Entities.

But why would fallen angels try and pass themselves off as aliens

 

[BobRyan]

Are aliens created in the image and likeness of God? Scripture is silent about lives on other planets.

Scripture says God does good not evil. God is not the creator of evil. The sentient beings beyond Earth were created sinless and we know this by looking at the case of the angels.

But 1/3 of the angels chose to live in rebellion against God and were cast down to Earth after Adam and Eve joined them in that rebellion.

Rebellion is now confined to Earth.

Good news is - all the "bad actors" are here - no new ones will be showing up.
Bad news is - all the bad actors are here.

Some of those bad actors can put on a pretty good "show" for making it appear that Christ has come or that bad actors are showing up from beyond Earth.

 

[RileyG]

Scripture says God does good not evil. God is not the creator of evil. The sentient beings beyond Earth were created sinless and we know this by looking at the case of the angels.

But 1/3 of the angels chose to live in rebellion against God and were cast down to Earth after Adam and Eve joined them in that rebellion.

Rebellion is now confined to Earth.

Amen

 

[BobRyan]

If they do exist and eventually appear they will most defiantly be fallen angels. At least two Christian miniseries speak about this and the encounters through out history. The government has been involved at least since the 1940s. You are aware of the alleged encounter and treaty President Eisenhower made with these creatures?

Dr. Tom Horn, a Christian minister has written on the topic, as well as documentaries, and another Pastoral family, Justen and Wes Faulk, made the documentary Higher Entities.

Yes but I believe that is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what is coming. According to 2 Thess 2 the final "big show" is going to be like this

8 Then that lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will eliminate with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not accept the love of the truth so as to be saved.​

 

[wendykvw]

But why would fallen angels try and pass themselves off as aliens

Are your serious? Deception……”For even Satan can transform himself as an angel.” 2 Cor 11:14.

 

[wendykvw]

Yes but I believe that is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what is coming. According to 2 Thess 2 the final "big show" is going to be like this

8 Then that lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will eliminate with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not accept the love of the truth so as to be saved.​

When they arrive, that is Satan and his unholy creatures, they will deceive many with all kinds of signs and wonders. The world will most likely be impressed, and will align themselves and worship these horrid deceivers. It is surly coming, and many will fall for the lies and deception. They are already deceiving now. Any minute they are going to appear.

 

[BobRyan]

But why would fallen angels try and pass themselves off as aliens

First of all - Angels are "aliens" by definition. So it is "accurate" to say they don't originate from Earth.

Secondly - the evil angels have a "story line to sell mankind". They have a religion to sell -- they have their own doctrine on "origins" for all life, and they have their own story about how much of the Bible should be tossed out the window and what part kept.

A universe of beings that don't exactly fit what we would expect from scripture - goes a long way toward selling their story.

 

[BobRyan]

When they arrive, that is Satan and his unholy creatures, they will deceive many with all kinds of signs and wonders. The world will most likely be impressed, and will align themselves and worship these horrid deceivers. It is surly coming, and many will fall for the lies and deception. They are already deceiving now. Any minute they are going to appear.

They have already altered the Bible timeline of events that is expected and shifted it from something they cannot possibly fake -- to something "they can fake". That revised fake-able version (or some form of it) is now what humanity expects. It is a setup.

 

[wendykvw]

They have already altered the Bible timeline of events that is expected and shifted it from something they cannot possibly fake -- to something "they can fake". That revised fake-able version (or some form of it) is now what humanity expects. It is a setup.

I don’t understand. Are you saying the Bible has been tampered with?

 

[BobRyan]

I don’t understand. Are you saying the Bible has been tampered with?

No the Bible is fine - but what it says and what people are expecting to happen for the millennium are two different things.

There is a story accepted by all world religions that "somebody shows up" soon and "fixes everything" by making "adjustments" in this broken society so the bad people become a bit better behaved and the good people have some peace on "Earth" for that 1000 years. (or for the age of Aquarius or whatever they call it in their religion).

Satan needs mankind to have an expectation set - that he with his shiny angels can fake for them as if it has happened. The Bible says that his plan works - that all the world is duped. Only those that "love the truth" according to 2Thess 2 will escape being taken in - because only they are taking the details in the Bible seriously enough to work through the answers given in the Bible to some important details.

There was also nothing wrong with Noah's message but mankind did not buy it. And they paid the price for that choice.

 

[wendykvw]

No the Bible is fine - but what it says and what people are expecting to happen for the millennium are two different things.

There is a story accepted by all world religions that "somebody shows up" soon and "fixes everything" by making "adjustments" in this broken society so the bad people become a bit better behaved and the good people have some peace on "Earth" for that 1000 years. (or for the age of Aquarius or whatever they call it in their religion).

Satan needs mankind to have an expectation set - that he with his shiny angels can fake for them as if it has happened. The Bible says that his plan works - that all the world is duped. Only those that "love the truth" according to 2Thess 2 will escape being taken in - because only they are taking the details in the Bible seriously enough to work through the answers given in the Bible to some important details.

There was also nothing wrong with Noah's message but mankind did not buy it. And they paid the price for that choice.

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[Sorn]

Are your serious? Deception……”For even Satan can transform himself as an angel.” 2 Cor 11:14.

But as an 'alien', they can only say they are technologically advanced (& govts would want to learn & study these advanced techs), they could not be worshiped, nor could they refute the existence of God or a life to come etc.
How exactly do these fallen angels, demons, satan benefit by passing themselves of as aliens.

 

[Sorn]

So do these fallen angels land in spaceships???
Where did they get them from? What will they do when Govts want to send people to examine them or at least take a ride in them. Will they be taken to Mars, Alpha Centauri??
This idea of demons passing themselves of as aliens just doesn't bear any actual sensible scrutiny.

 

[BobRyan]

So do these fallen angels land in spaceships???

Fallen angels play whatever game they wish with humans that choose to play games with them.

One plays the "talking snake" game with Even in Gen 3.
One plays the "talking dead guy" game with king Saul in 1 Sam 28.
They played the "sticks turn into snakes game" with Pharaoh's magicians in the book of Exodus.

Whatever story line humans will buy instead of following the Bible -- well that will do.

 

[wendykvw]

But as an 'alien', they can only say they are technologically advanced (& govts would want to learn & study these advanced techs), they could not be worshiped, nor could they refute the existence of God or a life to come etc.
How exactly do these fallen angels, demons, satan benefit by passing themselves of as aliens.

Gaining control of humanity, and leading them away from Christ. If they appeared as they truly are, it would negate their deceptive motive.

 

[BobRyan]

But as an 'alien', they can only say they are technologically advanced (& govts would want to learn & study these advanced techs), they could not be worshiped, nor could they refute the existence of God or a life to come etc.
How exactly do these fallen angels, demons, satan benefit by passing themselves of as aliens.

The Bible says - God created the World and all life on it in 7 days and that God's law is to be obeyed.

Suppose then that The alien says -

• God did no such thing.
• Mankind is "evolving" to a higher plane of existence so "follow me"
  
• Mankind is on their own and need to "make alliances" to "stay safe" in this untamed universe.
• Mankind is at risk unless they follow the alien's lead
• Or the alien's knowledge of god is much older and more informed so ditch that Bible
• or - a new form of religion is needed - one that accommodates alien alternatives.
• or they tell us a "story" saying: Mankind is soon to be invaded by "other" bad aliens so form "alliances with us and we will protect you". Only it will turn out that the "OTHER" supposed band of aliens is in fact the "big whopping army from heaven" in Rev 19 and humans were already told in Rev 16 to get their armies together and go fight Christ and His army that will appear in Rev 19.

Yes we see something along those lines in Rev 16 and 19

ARMIES of EARTH directed by fallen angel entities -- to assemble for war against alien invasion

Rev 16:
12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up, so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east.
13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the entire world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.


Armies of Heaven arrive - and oppose armies of Earth

Rev 19:
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many crowns; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. 13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. 15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron;

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in midheaven, “Come, assemble for the great feast of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people, both free and slaves, and small and great.”

19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies, assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse, and against His army.

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Hey no wait Bob! you mean this was not just a random topic??!

 

[wendykvw]

Fallen angels play whatever game they wish with humans that choose to play games with them.

One plays the "talking snake" game with Even in Gen 3.
One plays the "talking dead guy" game with king Saul in 1 Sam 28.
They played the "sticks turn into snakes game" with Pharaoh's magicians in the book of Exodus.

Whatever story line humans will buy instead of following the Bible -- well that will do.

I have a documentary and book I would like to tell you about. I will send you a pm.

 

[BobRyan]

I have a documentary and book I would like to tell you about. I will send you a pm.

thanks!