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UFOs are real according to - former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelli

Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by BobRyan, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. BobRyan

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    To see “INSIDE Edition” interview with former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Karl Mellon

    Go here

    43 seconds into that 1:43 m:ss video
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    What exactly do they (the news media and military) expect us to think?
     
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  2. Ken Rank

    Ken Rank Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Ever seen anything unexplained, Bob?
     
  3. Strathos

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    UFOs are real, as in there are flying objects that people have not been able to identify. That doesn't mean they are alien spacecraft.
     
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  4. Ken Rank

    Ken Rank Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Ever seen anything you can't identify?
     
  5. Sanoy

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    High intensity weather balloons equipped with threat avoidance systems and filled with swamp gas.
     
  6. Ken Rank

    Ken Rank Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That's awesome!
     
  7. Going_Nowhere

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    The truth is out there.
     
  8. Yarddog

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    That there is evidence of flying objects which they can't explain.
     
  9. BobRyan

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    one of my calculus examples was unexplained once.
    But if you tell me that a tree branch followed my car then "out maneuvered" me when I tried to turn around and run into it ... before it then zipped off into the horizon at supersonic speed..well yeah "unexplained".. but I would not expect it to happen more than once or twice every couple hundred years.
     
  10. BobRyan

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    True but that leads to a fun time imagining natural objects that "out maneuver" jet fighters, hover, sustain G-forces beyond all possibility with erratic direction changes, engage in dog fight maneuvers with our military, thin zip beyond horizon at supersonic speed only to "return" a minute later.

    What I really like is the possibility that this is Chinese or Russian as if their aerospace technology was so far beyond that of the US ten years ago that they could "afford" to take top secret programs -- put them on display in front of our military -- for a few days or weeks -- then return home knowing that all of our intelligence operations spying on them in all the ways we do it - would never know they had it apart from their dangling it right in front of us day after day. I really like that scenario.
     
  11. Ken Rank

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    I have seen two things that are without explanation. One was back in the early 90's. I was on the Jersey Shore, 32nd St. in Brant Beach to be exact, and I was letting my dog run on the beach at sunset. As it was just about dark I was about to get up and saw, what I thought was about 2-3 miles offshore, a white light. The light was moving in circles and figure 8's and I was about to chalk it up to some joker on a clam boat swinging a spot light on a rope off the main mast when it darted faster than I have seen anything fly to the southern horizon, off what would be Atlantic City. It was shimmering but from the distance I assumed it was doing circles and figure 8's again and then it came back to where it was before me, did on circle and then went straight up into the dark sky and was gone. I had never seen anything move like that before. Interestingly, a few years later I was watching an "In Search of" when Nimoy was the host and somebody filmed exactly what I saw but off the California coast.

    The second and final unexplained thing I saw was 3 years ago. My son who was 12 at the time and myself, were out splitting firewood. He looks up and says, "Daddy, what is that?" (pointing over my shoulder to the north) And I look up and a disc about 40' in diameter around 3000-4000 feet high is flying directly over us with no sound at all. It kept that pace until is disappeared over the southern horizon. I know the height was about right because the cloud ceiling was low that day, around 5000'. Based on my knowing that, I was able to guess at the size of the craft.

    He asked me what that one was... and I lied to him and told him it was a drone. Problem is, we don't have silent drones yet.

    What were these things? I have no clue... they are simply unidentified.
     
  12. DennisTate

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    Also Canada's former Minister of Defence talks about this quite a bit. I believe that they fit in with Genesis chapter 6 where the sons of G-d saw the daughters of men and took wives as they chose and giants were born to them.

    Certain museum's are rumored to have destroyed many sketons of giants due to their existence sounding too much like events from the Bible that is considered to be an Inconvenient Truth to the majority these days.

    Former Canadian defence minister claims aliens refuse to share technology because of Earth’s wars, pollution

    Paul Hellyer: "UFO's don't share tech with us because of wars and pollution!"
     
  13. Brian Mcnamee

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    HI this is a hot button topic as I believe we are being mentally prepped for some sort of unveiling. The Bible warns about not being deceived and that in the latter days a man of sin is to be revealed who will claim to be some sort of God and he will perform lying signs and wonders and people will believe him. This being an alien very well could be part of the deception. If these things do manifest would they be form another solar system or another dimension? The Vatican head astronomer stated not if but when our space brothers are revealed they will not challenge the authority of pope and they will be God's creation without the sin of Adam and they will transform our understanding of God. It is quite possible that this person will claim to be returning to earth and claim to have seeded life here billions of years ago. There are guys who look into this stuff Tom Horn. LA Marzulli are a couple.
     
  14. Strathos

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    Who hasn't?
     
  15. d taylor

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    Of course they are real fakes, and they are created by the government. They go with the fake moon landings and the outer space the government keeps pawning off on people.
     
  16. Ken Rank

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    The point was I was looking for a description... like I gave. I was trying to create conversation.
     
  17. Mattin91

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    UFOs are man-made reconnaissance platforms. The Russians and the US built them shortly after World War II. A little background which reveals why this subject has been buried under false explanations. In 1947, a private pilot saw objects but they were not circular. Eight were spade shaped like a shovel, the ninth was a crescent with a projecting point in the back middle. They were thin when viewed from the side and referred to as having a "low aspect ratio." He provided a drawing to US Air Force intelligence. Engineers and specialists at Wright Field in Dayton Ohio collected additional information and built wind tunnel models.

    The US Air Force controlled all information about them right from the beginning. In 1948, reporting restrictions for military personnel were put in place through JANAP or Joint Army Navy Air Publication. More and more restrictions were placed not just on military personnel but on commercial pilots through JANAP updates as the years passed. Clearly the UFOs were something. Meanwhile, in the United States, calls for the rapid development of missile defenses and continental radars went out. The US Navy had radar picket ships in the Atlantic and Pacific before full radar coverage could be achieved. Canada had to become part of North American defense through NORAD.

    They weren't looking for aliens. They were looking for Russian bombers which would fly over the north pole to destroy targets in the US. The civilian sky watch that existed in the US and Canada during World War II was reactivated in both countries. Meanwhile, no cities have been hit by ray guns.
     
  18. Dan1988

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    There are tons of unexplained and mysterious things in the world.
    So called scientists don't seem to have a clue about any of these unexplained phenomena.

    Secular science can't even explain the most elementary questions, which children ask everyday. So we shouldn't hold our breath waiting for answers to any of the UFO sightings either.

    There are ancient buildings which are made up of solid blocks of stone, some weighing in the hundreds of tons. And the stones were transported from thousands of miles away.

    The bible speaks about giants roaming the earth, some experts estimate their height at up to 36 feet so they could easily carry these large stones and build those ancient structures. Secular science denies that giants ever existed.

    It's funny how most people find UFO's amazing, but they think nothing of the most amazing of all supernatural phenomenon "the human eye".
     
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