U.S. evicts Russians for spying, imposes sanctions after election hacks

[Uncle Siggy]

Indeed.

Especially if she kept her word about carrying on Obama policies, look how he sold out the Iranian people when he was first inaugurated. I've always wondered why they waited until Obama got into office before they asked for help, guess their media is much worse than ours...

 

[brinny]

Especially if she kept her word about carrying on Obama policies, look how he sold out the Iranian people when he was first inaugurated. I've always wondered why they waited until Obama got into office before they asked for help, guess their media is much worse than ours...

Thank GOD she's not in office.

Amen.

 

[Widlast]

I amazes me that the Main Stream Media (and the politicians in power) can lie through their teeth about what's going on in Syria for years at a stretch. Apparently most people have a nasty habit of believing whatever they are told.

 

[TerranceL]

Obama's too much of a coward. He didn't do anything about Russia's obvious war crimes in Syria aiding in a genocide and only cares about what it does all of a sudden when Russia interfered in the elections. That too, after it caused Clinton to lose. Too little, too late.

The loss is on him in a lot of ways.

The "hacking" was telling the American people what the DNC and Hillary was doing in secret.

Perhaps if the DNC and Hillary weren't so amazingly crooked she'd be president right now.

 

[Soyeong]

US Govt Data Shows Russia Used Outdated Ukrainian PHP Malware

The government data shows that that the hack involved using outdated Ukrainian PHP malware, so there really isn't a smoking gun that the hack was done by the Russians. Trying to stir up anti-Russian sentiment without a smoking gun is both dangerous and irresponsible diplomatically speaking. It is much better to be at peace with Russian than at war, so as much as I am not a fan of everything Putin has done, it is commendable that he took the high road.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Obama's too much of a coward. He didn't do anything about Russia's obvious war crimes in Syria aiding in a genocide and only cares about what it does all of a sudden when Russia interfered in the elections. That too, after it caused Clinton to lose. Too little, too late.

The loss is on him in a lot of ways.

I almost believe that people outside the forum read my posts Or the more likely explanation is that it's just obvious to anyone who is sincere and hasn't tuned into the world only in the past few months.

"Obama posed as a friend of the Syrian opposition only to watch as they were overstretched by Assad, and then the Islamic State, allowing Iran and Russia to effectively end the chances of revolutionary victory over Assad through sheer brute, genocidal force.

Now as Russia, having triumphed on the battlefield in Aleppo, begins a process of imposing an imperialist "political settlement" on the country, the US under Obama has been completely locked out.

All of this comes as Obama finally decided to "get tough" on Russia by expelling 35 Russian diplomats due to its interference in the US election. Obama might want to reflect on why Russia was emboldened enough to so brazenly interfere in US elections through hacking?

Could it be because when Russia desperately tried to stop the US from acting against Assad after Ghouta, Putin saw desperation and weakness in its eyes as it readily accepted the plan to save his ally Assad?

Could it be because as Putin smashed a Syrian rebellion that the US once claimed to support, he saw the US put its head down and do nothing, or even acquiesce to his barbaric logic over the intervention?

Could it be because Putin sees forces supportive of him and that he has supported, mostly fascist ones, rise in Europe without any coherent opposition?

As with Obama's too little, too late action over Israel, his action against Russia comes at a time when, in a matter of weeks, it will all be reversed - Trump not only supports Russia's intervention in Syria, which will probably earn the US a place at the table as the Syrian opposition are politically neutralised, but he also praised Putin's reaction to Obama's punitive action over Russian interference.

The world Obama leaves behind is a world that belongs to Putin and Trump – a world where the toothless centre and the liberal democratic order it upholds is being ripped apart by the fully fanged jaws of the populist right.

While the Obamas of the world equivocate, hesitate and triangulate, the authoritarians, post-fact populists and nascent fascists of the world continue to pursue their interests with brutal conviction.

All of these forces, whether it's Putin, Le Pen, Netanyahu, Assad, Sisi, Orban, Modi, Putin or Trump are connected by the same essential illiberal political logic – progressives have no unified response.

Obama emerged at a time when the whole world was seemingly unified in its hope for a US president that transcended the malfeasance, arrogance and criminality of the Bush era - the hope for something progressive after one of the darkest periods in modern history.

Instead, what it got was a president whose policies have for eight years incoherently straddled the lines between essential continuity with the "War on Terror" and a shift away from it. Far from engendering progressive values in the world, this has allowed its smoulderingly dangerous consequences to rapidly combust."

Barack Obama: 'The too little too late' president

He was actually far worse than Bush; so much so that I actually miss him! And it's not just a case of too little, too late. He actively sought and pushed the nuclear deal with Iran despite their obvious hand in and support of the genocide. He actively had the US fight against the rebels in Syria with drone strikes (killing civilians too) but didn't even look in Assad's direction to even just implement a No-Fly Zone, let alone to target Assad's thugs with drone strikes. And the US is training terrorists in Iraq (i.e. the PMU). What a freaking disgrace.

 

[BubbaJack]

The "hacking" was telling the American people what the DNC and Hillary was doing in secret.

Perhaps if the DNC and Hillary weren't so amazingly crooked she'd be president right now.

But the media will still say that Russia "hacked the election" so the low-fos and the no-fos will think that the voting machines were somehow broken into electronically and the vote count altered.

 

[Aldebaran]

But the media will still say that Russia "hacked the election" so the low-fos and the no-fos will think that the voting machines were somehow broken into electronically and the vote count altered.

Even stranger is that they no longer talk about how Hillary's poll numbers dived after FBI director James Comey announced that they were going to reopen their investigation.

By the new and twisted definition of what it now means to have "hacked" the election, they should be focusing more on Comey, and less on Putin.