U.S. Constitution now labeled as "harmful content".

[Aldebaran]

What makes you think they’re ashamed of it?

Go back 53 posts for the answer.

 

[Aldebaran]

Since they're sworn in, and sworn to protect the Constitution... isn't that treason?

Not if the Congress is controlled by the party with the same sentiments. Then it's called being "progressive".

 

[Ligurian]

Who is hiding anything? These are the people preserving history.

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states."

"In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States."

Preserving their view of history... right there... that's their opinion about what matters. They're like the newspaper editors who think it's their job to tell people what to think about, and what to think about what they think about.

So you don’t want people to read these documents? First you were concerned that the librarians were trying to get rid of them, now you think they might want to entice people to read them. Which is it?

Who is "they"? The librarians? Are you complaining that the archivists aren’t publishing their own personal opinions about specific events? Why in the world would they?

. Who is this rant directed at? What is it’s relation to the disclaimer or contents of the library?

Is it only odd to me, when people who didn't start the thread complain about the direction it goes?

I believe that the library is working the usual two-pronged approach. With the right hand, they're slapping warning labels on files which they--in all their superior wisdom--consider to be harmful to the masses they seek to control... knowing that people will flock to the x-rated/r-rated/everything-over-pg-rated files. With the left hand, they're getting ready to deny public access to what would undoubtedly be detrimental to the rule of the people (even though this is NOT a democracy, and is NOT under mob rule) they'll blame it on if/when everything goes south.

The man behind the curtain has never taken the blame for what his less-than-superior-wisdom creates. He controls both sides of the dialogue. He lives the Hegelian Dialectic 24/7. They don't call him TPTB for nothing. So, first he creates chaos, and then he channels the mob in the direction he wants them to run, which is always a full circle leading right back to the thing he planned long ago. In actuality, he creates for himself the worship of the masses... they extole his marvelous leadership and praise him to the skies... they plan on voting for him... as if that matters. Because the only real choice is not to play the game...

 

[Aldebaran]

Since when does having a warning label on something somehow show a dim view of that thing? Cigarette and alcohol manufacturers have agreed to put such labels on their own products, but they'd probably still like people to buy said products. Same with the music and film industries' respective tagging of potentially offensive content.

Similarly, I'm going to guess that the people at the archives want people to be able to access their content, even if the resulting research can be difficult.

You're comparing the founding documents of our country to cigarettes, alcohol and movies. Not a valid comparison.

 

[durangodawood]

Always interesting to see what the right wing indignation mill is pumping out.

The headlines..... so dire! Then you look deeper and it melts away.

Blather, rants, & repeat.

 

[Aldebaran]

Always interesting to see what the right wing indignation mill is pumping out.

The headlines..... so dire! The you look deeper and it melts away.

Blather, rants, & repeat.

Simply pointing out the indignation our government has for our very founding.

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Yeah... I do quote the Matrix... I'm guessing you don't pass out the red pill with every library card you issue.

Well a library card is one big giant red pill. If you so desire.

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Preserving their view of history... right there... that's their opinion about what matters. They're like the newspaper editors who think it's their job to tell people what to think about, and what to think about what they think about.



Is it only odd to me, when people who didn't start the thread complain about the direction it goes?

I believe that the library is working the usual two-pronged approach. With the right hand, they're slapping warning labels on files which they--in all their superior wisdom--consider to be harmful to the masses they seek to control... knowing that people will flock to the x-rated/r-rated/everything-over-pg-rated files. With the left hand, they're getting ready to deny public access to what would undoubtedly be detrimental to the rule of the people (even though this is NOT a democracy, and is NOT under mob rule) they'll blame it on if/when everything goes south.

The man behind the curtain has never taken the blame for what his less-than-superior-wisdom creates. He controls both sides of the dialogue. He lives the Hegelian Dialectic 24/7. They don't call him TPTB for nothing. So, first he creates chaos, and then he channels the mob in the direction he wants them to run, which is always a full circle leading right back to the thing he planned long ago. In actuality, he creates for himself the worship of the masses... they extole his marvelous leadership and praise him to the skies... they plan on voting for him... as if that matters. Because the only real choice is not to play the game...

Oof.
You don’t know. We have the upmost vigilance for censorship and respect for non censorship and freedom of speech. Regardless if we agree with it. Regardless of what it says.
That’s why adult patrons are able to access inappropriate contentography in the computer lab at the public library.
That’s why patrons are able to request The Anarchist Cookbook. And we (when having enough requests) will give it to them.
We hide nothing.
Good or Evil.

 

[Ligurian]

You're comparing the founding documents of our country to cigarettes, alcohol and movies. Not a valid comparison.

Well, yes and no. Ever notice in the movies where the big bad tells us why he does what he does, and his answer is always POWER. Control of other people is obviously the power they mean. The people who write the screenplay know this, and they play to the vanity of those who think that by controlling people they have power. The Bolsheviks red terror eliminated the ruling class, just like their kindred spirit did in the French Revolution. And then they went after the Intelligentsia. A telling event, don't you think? They were, in effect, saying that the only people who could take their power from them were intelligent people... who necessarily think for themselves, otherwise they're only as smart as the most intelligent author they've ever read, etc.

In America, they had to work more carefully, since we were a nation of rebels. So what did they do? Took the children out of the homes and taught them government morality in place of the Bible-readings done by caring parents. Thus began the dumbing down of America. In some schools, they teach with tests that don't measure anything but rote memory. At best, they're multiple-guess. Essay questions take too much time... and may easily be above the understanding of the teachers themselves... so real intelligence is hardly ever known. Children who aren't good with memory problems need to understand the thing in order to remember it at all... they don't fare well in the schools that expect robots, not Intelligentsia.

So... what it all comes down to is their control over people who aren't really a threat to them... which they then use to target the people they can't control.

 

[Ligurian]

Well a library card is one big giant red pill. If you so desire.

Modern library books are built on false history created by the barbarians who win wars.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Simply pointing out the indignation our government has for our very founding.

Repeating the misleading message from your OP does not make it any more right. From the time you posted, it was debunked a half and hour later by iluvatar5150 in post #3, and that was followed up by post #4 which did the same. Nevertheless, here we are, a day later, and the same misleading conclusion is still being served up. A lie can circle the globe before the truth even gets its running shoes tied, and here we see a perfect example. I am certainly not the first to have to make this tedious rebuttal, but what you claim to be pointing out is flat out not true. The "warning message" of the OP does not show our government has any indignation for the founding documents. The warning was not intended to be taken for the constitution. But rather that go through all the archives and list out all the documents that might have harmful content, which would be an impossibly difficult job, they simple said some documents may have harmful content. That is like going to a national park with a warning about bears in the park and thinking that it means we should look out for bears inside the lodge too.

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Modern library books are built on false history created by the barbarians who win wars.

Ah epistemological nihilism, got it.

 

[Aldebaran]

Repeating the misleading message from your OP does not make it any more right. From the time you posted, it was debunked a half and hour later by iluvatar5150 in post #3, and that was followed up by post #4 which did the same. Nevertheless, here we are, a day later, and the same misleading conclusion is still being served up. A lie can circle the globe before the truth even gets its running shoes tied, and here we see a perfect example. I am certainly not the first to have to make this tedious rebuttal, but what you claim to be pointing out is flat out not true. The "warning message" of the OP does not show our government has any indignation for the founding documents. The warning was not intended to be taken for the constitution. But rather that go through all the archives and list out all the documents that might have harmful content, which would be an impossibly difficult job, they simple said some documents may have harmful content. That is like going to a national park with a warning about bears in the park and thinking that it means we should look out for bears inside the lodge too.

Did you miss the second part of the OP where they claimed that even the rotunda is racist?

Also interesting is that the same people have also declared that their own Rotunda that houses the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights – is an example of “structural racism” and that the Founding Fathers and other White, historically impactful Americans are portrayed too positively.
National Archives task force cites Rotunda as 'racism' example

 

[Ligurian]

Ah epistemological nihilism, got it.

you don't got it

We have the upmost vigilance for censorship and respect for non censorship and freedom of speech. Regardless if we agree with it. Regardless of what it says.

Do you have banned books in your library?
Interesting that inappropriate contentography isn't banned in your library, and neither is anarchy.
But I'm guessing Revisionist History books never make it to the stacks.
You actually have banning written into your legislature, these days, don't you?

 

[Sparagmos]

Preserving their view of history... right there... that's their opinion about what matters. They're like the newspaper editors who think it's their job to tell people what to think about, and what to think about what they think about.

Which important documents have they left out of the library?

With the right hand, they're slapping warning labels on files which they--in all their superior wisdom--consider to be harmful to the masses they seek to control... knowing that people will flock to the x-rated/r-rated/everything-over-pg-rated files.

That’s not true. You didn’t visit the site, did you?

With the left hand, they're getting ready to deny public access to what would undoubtedly be detrimental to the rule of the people (even though this is NOT a democracy, and is NOT under mob rule) they'll blame it on if/when everything goes south.

The librarians are getting ready to deny access to what?

Is it only odd to me, when people who didn't start the thread complain about the direction it goes?

. You didn’t answer the question. Who was your rant directed at? The thread didn’t go off on a tangent, you did.

 

[iluvatar5150]

At least I don't have an irrational fear of statues.

You seem to have an irrational fear of warning labels.

United States of America, age 245.

Are your math and history knowledge as poor as the reading comprehension you displayed in your OP? Our present system of government wasn't created in 1776.

You're comparing the founding documents of our country to cigarettes, alcohol and movies. Not a valid comparison.

As has already been pointed out, the warning that's causing you so much angst wasn't applied solely to the founding documents. Nor are those documents only visible with said warning.

Did you miss the second part of the OP where they claimed that even the rotunda is racist?

Also interesting is that the same people have also declared that their own Rotunda that houses the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights – is an example of “structural racism” and that the Founding Fathers and other White, historically impactful Americans are portrayed too positively.
National Archives task force cites Rotunda as 'racism' example

Did you even bother to read that article? I did. It says:

Some examples of “structural racism” were provided in the summary of the report, including “legacy descriptions that use racial slurs and harmful language to describe BIPOC communities,” which includes actual racial slurs

I then asked if you had a problem with that assessment. So, do you have a problem with the National Archives noting racist elements in their collection and potential racism in their hiring practices?

Here's the full report:
https://www.archives.gov/files/news/archivists-task-force-on-racism-report.pdf

Have you read the full report? If so, with what parts do you take issue?

 

[Sparagmos]

You're comparing the founding documents of our country to cigarettes, alcohol and movies. Not a valid comparison.

You’re 64 posts into this thread and you’re still claiming this library only includes founding documents?

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

you don't got it



Do you have banned books in your library?

oh sorry fallibilism, then.

And it depends on the library.
School and prison libraries censor and restrict books. The public library does not.
Librarians are not perfect. It depends on the location. In a more conservative area, there is going to be more complaints from patrons about LGBTQ+ material. In more liberal areas, there may be more issues with things like hate speech and what defines it.
Public Libraries are local. Meaning they are funded by the city or county. Not the state or the federal government. Meaning that some rogue libraries and librarians can and do go off the rails and do what they want.
And no, my library does not have any banned books because it’s part of the federal library system because I’m overseas. And because of that it is covered under the first amendment.

which technically they all are but city libraries can run the line longer.

 

[dzheremi]

You're comparing the founding documents of our country to cigarettes, alcohol and movies. Not a valid comparison.

I don't see how it isn't when the entire point of the thread is apparently how outraged you are that the Constitution supposedly now comes with a warning label attached.

Is this thread now about something other than warning labels?

 

[Brihaha]

Good investigators form and find a hypothesis from the evidence they gather. Biased, political investigators seem to look for evidence that supports their hypotheses. I must learn to avoid threads started by such folks. Five minutes of my life was wasted on this one.